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    Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.
    You should go back and read the thread from the start to get the full picture.

    I already asked her this and got a non-sensicle answer after continual prodding. She was more interested in turning the issue toward herself (what people should do if SHE was in this position), than answering what she would do if HER DAUGHTER was the one that was stricken. Of course, in the end, it boiled down to her wanting to play God!!!!!
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    By the way I found some diamonds while I dug and I am not sharing them
    Going to allow myself a little titter at that one - methinks there is a sense of humour lurking there somewhere. As for the rest well I still think in this case the kiddies should know their mum - how I would feel if anything happened to me or my daughter is a whole different issue

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    Cathy my answer to your question is in 37. I answered as best I could. It is a very gray area.............It would really depend on what the Dr's say and my daughters wishes, which I happen to know. She would not like to live as a veggie. I had this discussion with my family because of our mothers, both Steve and mine. Seeing what happened to them, feeling that pain................ Well we all talked about it so that if it happens to any one of us we would know what to do.
    As for playing God we all do that. When we have a child we start a life that is playing God. When we decide to end a fetus life we play God.
    If we have to go to war and kill another being we play God. If we put DNR on our papers or make a living will we play God. And I believe also when we bring any animal into this world we play God as well for they are his creatures too.
    When someone is in so much pain and they ask for their family to end their suffering they ask us to play God, or when they take their own life.
    And Dr's well they do it all day long.
    It's part of life and free will which by the way God gave us. He does not stop us from killing another or killing ourselves, driving drunk, taking a drug overdose, shotting our girlfriend he lets it happen.
    I have truly answered these questions in the best way I know how. I have been honest and laid it on the line. I have not ignored any ones questions or tried to side step. I feel I did not need to answer your questions or explain myself, this is still America and it is a free country and my family is MY business. However I answered because this is a place where one Should be able to express a thought without being
    thrown in the mud and I will continue to express my feelings and thoughts, that is what makes America free and great. Agreeing with me is not the issue, learning other points of view and expanding ones thoughts should be.
    There are truly some wonderful people here and I have learned a lot from them and their world and views, I think that might one of the things that makes PT so great. The animals however are always first.
    One last thought, if we eat meat are we playing God?




    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    Cathy my answer to your question is in 37. I answered as best I could. It is a very gray area.............It would really depend on what the Dr's say and my daughters wishes, which I happen to know. She would not like to live as a veggie. I had this discussion with my family because of our mothers, both Steve and mine. Seeing what happened to them, feeling that pain................ Well we all talked about it so that if it happens to any one of us we would know what to do.
    As for playing God we all do that. When we have a child we start a life that is playing God. When we decide to end a fetus life we play God.
    If we have to go to war and kill another being we play God. If we put DNR on our papers or make a living will we play God. And I believe also when we bring any animal into this world we play God as well for they are his creatures too.
    When someone is in so much pain and they ask for their family to end their suffering they ask us to play God, or when they take their own life.
    And Dr's well they do it all day long.
    It's part of life and free will which by the way God gave us. He does not stop us from killing another or killing ourselves, driving drunk, taking a drug overdose, shotting our girlfriend he lets it happen.
    I have truly answered these questions in the best way I know how. I have been honest and laid it on the line. I have not ignored any ones questions or tried to side step. I feel I did not need to answer your questions or explain myself, this is still America and it is a free country and my family is MY business. However I answered because this is a place where one Should be able to express a thought without being
    thrown in the mud and I will continue to express my feelings and thoughts, that is what makes America free and great. Agreeing with me is not the issue, learning other points of view and expanding ones thoughts should be.
    There are truly some wonderful people here and I have learned a lot from them and their world and views, I think that might one of the things that makes PT so great. The animals however are always first.
    One last thought, if we eat meat are we playing God?
    I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.
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    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
    Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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    I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.
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    LOL LOL Pomtzu go right ahead and beat your head against the wall, do it often until you knock some sense into your head.
    You go on and on and on about me side stepping the issue, (is your head beginning to hurt yet?) what you really want is for me to say I am wrong, to agree with you. Because I do not feel that way you pester and belittle and criticize my thoughts.
    If someone has a different opinion do you always try to change it to your side or else they are wrong and need to explain themselves over and over in great detail to you? Why can you not accept that their view might be right for them? I have not asked you to explain yourself. I did not feel it was right to make you try and explain such a personal choice to me over and over and then to find fault with it.
    Oh yes I forgot because you are always right.
    Keep banging dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post

    LOL LOL Pomtzu go right ahead and beat your head against the wall, do it often until you knock some sense into your head.
    You go on and on and on about me side stepping the issue, (is your head beginning to hurt yet?) what you really want is for me to say I am wrong, to agree with you. Because I do not feel that way you pester and belittle and criticize my thoughts.
    If someone has a different opinion do you always try to change it to your side or else they are wrong and need to explain themselves over and over in great detail to you? Why can you not accept that their view might be right for them? I have not asked you to explain yourself. I did not feel it was right to make you try and explain such a personal choice to me over and over and then to find fault with it.
    Oh yes I forgot because you are always right.
    Keep banging dear.
    Not surprising, but completely and totally uncalled for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.
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    LOL LOL Pomtzu go right ahead and beat your head against the wall, do it often until you knock some sense into your head.
    You go on and on and on about me side stepping the issue, (is your head beginning to hurt yet?) what you really want is for me to say I am wrong, to agree with you. Because I do not feel that way you pester and belittle and criticize my thoughts.
    If someone has a different opinion do you always try to change it to your side or else they are wrong and need to explain themselves over and over in great detail to you? Why can you not accept that their view might be right for them? I have not asked you to explain yourself. I did not feel it was right to make you try and explain such a personal choice to me over and over and then to find fault with it.
    Oh yes I forgot because you are always right.
    Keep banging dear.
    I never tried to change your way of thinking, I was only trying to get a straight answer. So much for that act of futility.
    I will say no more, other than that you will be in my prayers, with the hopes that you never find yourself in the position where you have to make a decision of the fate of one of your children, or even you husband. May God go with you and yours............
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    Ecclesiastes 3:1
    The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
    To know just when the hands will stop - on what day, or what hour.
    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
    Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.
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    LOL LOL Pomtzu go right ahead and beat your head against the wall, do it often until you knock some sense into your head.
    You go on and on and on about me side stepping the issue, (is your head beginning to hurt yet?) what you really want is for me to say I am wrong, to agree with you. Because I do not feel that way you pester and belittle and criticize my thoughts.
    If someone has a different opinion do you always try to change it to your side or else they are wrong and need to explain themselves over and over in great detail to you? Why can you not accept that their view might be right for them? I have not asked you to explain yourself. I did not feel it was right to make you try and explain such a personal choice to me over and over and then to find fault with it.
    Oh yes I forgot because you are always right.
    Keep banging dear.

    WOW....you are something else.

    Just wanted to let you know that I was in a coma for nearly 6 weeks when I was 9yrs old and all I can say is I'm glad you weren't my mother and decide to walk away from me or pull the plug. And yes, it did take a few months of therapy to get back to my old self but I did get there. I feel sorry for your kids , they deserve better than what you seem able to give.
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    I've been Boo'd----

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    Asiel, I am very thankful your mother didn't give up on you. I am also very happy you had a good outcome.
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

    I have been frosted!

    Thanks Kfamr for the signature!


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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Asiel, I am very thankful your mother didn't give up on you. I am also very happy you had a good outcome.


    Thanks Casey'smom, - and yes, I thank God everyday that things turned out the way they did. And I thank him for sending me the kind of mom that saw me through a lot of hard work and sweat.
    Asiel

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    I've been Boo'd----

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