Court Fight waged over brain damaged moms tripplets

[Marigold2]

Oh my gosh are you kidding me? The mom is a veggie salad. The kids do not need to see or be exposed to a veggie. She is incapable of giving them any love, attention, support.................
Yes I feel sorry for her, but it's over, the cards have been dealt. Now the husbend and the kids need to forge ahead and make a normal life for themselves and grandma and grandpa should put daughter in a nursing home and get on with their lives.
If that was me I would not want my children to dwell on what has happened to me, I would want them to go ahead and enjoy their lives to the fullest. Life is for the living and is to be enjoyed.
I have told all of my kids, if I stroke out enjoy life, every precious second and don't fret about me. My time has passed, it's ok to be happy and do your thing.

[pomtzu]

Oh my gosh are you kidding me? The mom is a veggie salad. The kids do not need to see or be exposed to a veggie. She is incapable of giving them any love, attention, support.................
Yes I feel sorry for her, but it's over, the cards have been dealt. Now the husbend and the kids need to forge ahead and make a normal life for themselves and grandma and grandpa should put daughter in a nursing home and get on with their lives.
If that was me I would not want my children to dwell on what has happened to me, I would want them to go ahead and enjoy their lives to the fullest. Life is for the living and is to be enjoyed.
I have told all of my kids, if I stroke out enjoy life, every precious second and don't fret about me. My time has passed, it's ok to be happy and do your thing.

OMG - I can't believe you have posted what you have!

I found this post to be very cruel and cold...... Veggie salad???

How do you know what this woman is capable of?? Are you part of her rehab team??? Have you personally seen and evaluated her???

And it seems as tho the husband has already forged ahead - he divorced his wife afterall.

And perhaps YOU should tell grandma and grandpa to put their daughter in a nursing home and get on with their lives. Hellooooooooooooo - but I think you missed something - their daughter IS their life, and they are doing what they WANT and feel they NEED to do for her. Perhaps "some people" would put her away so that she is out of sight/out of mind, but I don't believe any parent that loves their child and has the ability to give/assist in the needed care, would ever resort to such measures.

And the little ones - they should most definitely have a relationship with their mother, no matter how limited and/or one sided that it may be. IMO - there are very few instances in which a child should not have contact with a parent, and this woman's condition isn't one of them.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

It's heartbreaking. IMO the children should be allowed to visit their mother with proper supervision. One day they are going to know of her existence and want to know about their mother. If they are kept from her then their father will have some awkward questions to answer.

Why does everything have to come down to money?

[lvpets2002]

Yes it is all so sad & heartbreaking for both parties.. I do aggree the children should have the right to see & know about their mother.. I mean she birthed them & it costed her of freedom..

Pawsitive Thinking == it all comes down to money due to Greed & more Greed.. Greed is a nightmare from Hellll that somepeople just have not learned how to control before it takes control over somepeople.. Its Life & Life goes on & on & on..

It's heartbreaking. IMO the children should be allowed to visit their mother with proper supervision. One day they are going to know of her existence and want to know about their mother. If they are kept from her then their father will have some awkward questions to answer.

Why does everything have to come down to money?

[caseysmom]

OMG - I can't believe you have posted what you have!

I found this post to be very cruel and cold...... Veggie salad???

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

[lvpets2002]

I ussally dont post anything negative about what people post.. BUTTTT Marigold2 I find this/your post very COLD & UpSetting.. I happened to have a mother that was as you call them a Veggie Salad & I still took care of her & LOVED her.. She was my Mother.. You dont just stop loving someone just because they can not mobile normally.. This woman risked her life giving these babies their life.. So why should she & the kids not be able to see each other.. And if I were her parents I would be doing the same & caring for my daughter.. It is their right.. Give me a break on How Cold You Are.. I know you sound tough now = but we will see if this is to happen to you.. Ok I will get off of my soap box now.. Thank You All for Your Out Look On This Story..

Oh my gosh are you kidding me? The mom is a veggie salad. The kids do not need to see or be exposed to a veggie. She is incapable of giving them any love, attention, support.................
Yes I feel sorry for her, but it's over, the cards have been dealt. Now the husbend and the kids need to forge ahead and make a normal life for themselves and grandma and grandpa should put daughter in a nursing home and get on with their lives.
If that was me I would not want my children to dwell on what has happened to me, I would want them to go ahead and enjoy their lives to the fullest. Life is for the living and is to be enjoyed.
I have told all of my kids, if I stroke out enjoy life, every precious second and don't fret about me. My time has passed, it's ok to be happy and do your thing.

[Taz_Zoee]

I believe every one has a right to their opinion. But in Marigolds original post (re-posted below) she is not just stating an opinion. She is saying these people should think she the way she does and that's it! They are not her and obviously do not share her way of thinking. That is what bothered me about this to begin with. I have read each post since then and think it's fine that she has her opinion. But to be so harsh with the first post and act like every one should have the same thoughts she does was just not okay.

And I'm going to say again......if the father had let the children see their mother from the beginning there would be nothing scary about her to them.

Oh my gosh are you kidding me? The mom is a veggie salad. The kids do not need to see or be exposed to a veggie. She is incapable of giving them any love, attention, support.................
Yes I feel sorry for her, but it's over, the cards have been dealt. Now the husbend and the kids need to forge ahead and make a normal life for themselves and grandma and grandpa should put daughter in a nursing home and get on with their lives.
If that was me I would not want my children to dwell on what has happened to me, I would want them to go ahead and enjoy their lives to the fullest. Life is for the living and is to be enjoyed.
I have told all of my kids, if I stroke out enjoy life, every precious second and don't fret about me. My time has passed, it's ok to be happy and do your thing.

[Marigold2]

Since you posted my first post, please look at what I said.
If it was me............... I would want my children to get on with their lives.
No one commented on this. No one said she really must love her kids to give up their love and affection so that they could live full lives.

No one commented on living wills or DNR orders which can be in the same catagory as veggie or coma. Yet most of us do not want to be hooked on to machines and have our families see us like this nor do we want to live like a veggie on a machine. Many of us would rather die.

As for digging a hole, yes I dug and found myself covered in many peoples mucky words, trying to make me the bad guy when as I said in my first post I would give up my life so I would not be a burden to my family, my friends, or the medical system.

By the way I found some diamonds while I dug and I am not sharing them.

[Catty1]

Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.

[pomtzu]

Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.

You should go back and read the thread from the start to get the full picture.

I already asked her this and got a non-sensicle answer after continual prodding. She was more interested in turning the issue toward herself (what people should do if SHE was in this position), than answering what she would do if HER DAUGHTER was the one that was stricken. Of course, in the end, it boiled down to her wanting to play God!!!!!

[Pawsitive Thinking]

By the way I found some diamonds while I dug and I am not sharing them

Going to allow myself a little titter at that one - methinks there is a sense of humour lurking there somewhere. As for the rest well I still think in this case the kiddies should know their mum - how I would feel if anything happened to me or my daughter is a whole different issue

[Marigold2]

Cathy my answer to your question is in 37. I answered as best I could. It is a very gray area.............It would really depend on what the Dr's say and my daughters wishes, which I happen to know. She would not like to live as a veggie. I had this discussion with my family because of our mothers, both Steve and mine. Seeing what happened to them, feeling that pain................ Well we all talked about it so that if it happens to any one of us we would know what to do.
As for playing God we all do that. When we have a child we start a life that is playing God. When we decide to end a fetus life we play God.
If we have to go to war and kill another being we play God. If we put DNR on our papers or make a living will we play God. And I believe also when we bring any animal into this world we play God as well for they are his creatures too.
When someone is in so much pain and they ask for their family to end their suffering they ask us to play God, or when they take their own life.
And Dr's well they do it all day long.
It's part of life and free will which by the way God gave us. He does not stop us from killing another or killing ourselves, driving drunk, taking a drug overdose, shotting our girlfriend he lets it happen.
I have truly answered these questions in the best way I know how. I have been honest and laid it on the line. I have not ignored any ones questions or tried to side step. I feel I did not need to answer your questions or explain myself, this is still America and it is a free country and my family is MY business. However I answered because this is a place where one Should be able to express a thought without being
thrown in the mud and I will continue to express my feelings and thoughts, that is what makes America free and great. Agreeing with me is not the issue, learning other points of view and expanding ones thoughts should be.
There are truly some wonderful people here and I have learned a lot from them and their world and views, I think that might one of the things that makes PT so great. The animals however are always first.
One last thought, if we eat meat are we playing God?

Just curious, Marigold - what would you do if this happened to your daughter - or even husband? Not if it happened to you...if it happened to someone else in your family.

[pomtzu]

Cathy my answer to your question is in 37. I answered as best I could. It is a very gray area.............It would really depend on what the Dr's say and my daughters wishes, which I happen to know. She would not like to live as a veggie. I had this discussion with my family because of our mothers, both Steve and mine. Seeing what happened to them, feeling that pain................ Well we all talked about it so that if it happens to any one of us we would know what to do.
As for playing God we all do that. When we have a child we start a life that is playing God. When we decide to end a fetus life we play God.
If we have to go to war and kill another being we play God. If we put DNR on our papers or make a living will we play God. And I believe also when we bring any animal into this world we play God as well for they are his creatures too.
When someone is in so much pain and they ask for their family to end their suffering they ask us to play God, or when they take their own life.
And Dr's well they do it all day long.
It's part of life and free will which by the way God gave us. He does not stop us from killing another or killing ourselves, driving drunk, taking a drug overdose, shotting our girlfriend he lets it happen.
I have truly answered these questions in the best way I know how. I have been honest and laid it on the line. I have not ignored any ones questions or tried to side step. I feel I did not need to answer your questions or explain myself, this is still America and it is a free country and my family is MY business. However I answered because this is a place where one Should be able to express a thought without being
thrown in the mud and I will continue to express my feelings and thoughts, that is what makes America free and great. Agreeing with me is not the issue, learning other points of view and expanding ones thoughts should be.
There are truly some wonderful people here and I have learned a lot from them and their world and views, I think that might one of the things that makes PT so great. The animals however are always first.
One last thought, if we eat meat are we playing God?

I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.

[Marigold2]

I should have known it would only be twisted again. I might just as well beat my head against a brick wall, rather than expect a direct answer posted here.
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LOL LOL Pomtzu go right ahead and beat your head against the wall, do it often until you knock some sense into your head.
You go on and on and on about me side stepping the issue, (is your head beginning to hurt yet?) what you really want is for me to say I am wrong, to agree with you. Because I do not feel that way you pester and belittle and criticize my thoughts.
If someone has a different opinion do you always try to change it to your side or else they are wrong and need to explain themselves over and over in great detail to you? Why can you not accept that their view might be right for them? I have not asked you to explain yourself. I did not feel it was right to make you try and explain such a personal choice to me over and over and then to find fault with it.
Oh yes I forgot because you are always right.
Keep banging dear.