Sex abuse in church

[wombat2u2004]

My ex-husband is from Ireland and he attended school run by the Christian Brothers. The boys were abused so badly with beatings and verbal abuse that many of them find themselves damaged still to this day. Many of my ex's problems with self-esteem and communications issues appear to stem from his days in a "Christian/Catholic" school.

That is exactly the same story my wife has. Her first husband was Irish with the same upbringing.
He was a real looney toon.....he used to get drunk, sit on her, holding her arms to the floor with his knees, and slap her about the face.
Then I came along....and it was bye bye time for Mr. Potato Head and his screwed up life.

[Marigold2]

My kids went to a Lutheran school for a while till I pulled them out.
Prinicple was having an affair with second grade teacher, very nasty.
There were other reasons as well.
When my daughter was 5 or 6 she was in the after school program as I worked.
The kids brought their lunch. Now Alicia has always been one of those people that eats tiny meals, but lots of them. She is not fat or thin, she is just right, she models and does acting, she does not have a weight hang up.
Anyway here is this poor little kid with her lunch. I always packed 5 things in my kids lunch, a fruit, a snack, sandwich, maybe a salad or soup and a drink. This day she had a soup, sandwich, grapes and cookies plus the drink. She eats some of the soup, some of the sandwich, some grapes and starts eating her cookies. The teacher tells her to finish her soup and sandwich, Alicia tells her she is full. Teacher places hand over her thermos and says "if you are full, no soup, no sandwich, no cookies will go in" my brilllalnt daughter says to her teacher "it's my lunch and I will eat what I want" . She had to stand in the corner for three hours.
When I got there and teacher told me what she said I laughted and told her "that is correct, it is her lunch and she can eat the cookies first if she wants and if that is all she wants that is all she needs to eat" . Teacher said "we try and teach our pupils good eating habits". I told her that Alicia could eat what she wanted and from now on maybe I would just pack her cookies, candies and more snacks in her lunch and that she had better NOT be in the corner again for eating her own lunch which I packed.
I was so mad at that teacher. imagine trying to dicate what this poor kid could eat and how much and then putting her in the corner. I put that teacher in her place. Alicia and I still laugh about that.

[Cataholic]

^^ I cannot tolerate hearing stories like that! It makes me so fearful of J being in school. I am sure I would have done the same thing as you. I have this particular hang-up with kids going to the bathroom. At J's school, they have unlimited access to the bathroom. They take the pass and just leave the room. There is only 1 pass for each gender, so, it is one at a time. But, there isn't any asking permission. I am not sure how it will happen later on in the upper grades, but, I really, really, really hope it is still as easy as it is now. His teacher has told me that she finds it teaches the child about responsibility and sees much less abuse of the process this way. Not total lack of abuse, and she does monitor it, but sometimes, kids 'need' an escape for a few minutes. A lot like adults.

I hear these stories about kids being denied access to the potty and it infuriates me.

[caseysmom]

^^ I cannot tolerate hearing stories like that! It makes me so fearful of J being in school. I am sure I would have done the same thing as you. I have this particular hang-up with kids going to the bathroom. At J's school, they have unlimited access to the bathroom. They take the pass and just leave the room. There is only 1 pass for each gender, so, it is one at a time. But, there isn't any asking permission. I am not sure how it will happen later on in the upper grades, but, I really, really, really hope it is still as easy as it is now. His teacher has told me that she finds it teaches the child about responsibility and sees much less abuse of the process this way. Not total lack of abuse, and she does monitor it, but sometimes, kids 'need' an escape for a few minutes. A lot like adults.

I hear these stories about kids being denied access to the potty and it infuriates me.

That happened in first grade for my daughter, my husband had to go to the school with an extra change of clothes. I met with the teacher and we worked it out.

[wombat2u2004]

That happened in first grade for my daughter, my husband had to go to the school with an extra change of clothes. I met with the teacher and we worked it out.

I can remember an incident that happened to me when I was about 8 years old. I was in class and felt really sick. I asked the teacher if I could go outside because I was feeling sick.....she said no....about a minute later I vomited all over the floor. She made me clean it up.

[RICHARD]

I can remember an incident that happened to me when I was about 8 years old. I was in class and felt really sick. I asked the teacher if I could go outside because I was feeling sick.....she said no....about a minute later I vomited all over the floor. She made me clean it up.

Moderation, mate.

You Aussies start young.

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We used to have phy ed once a week and it consisted of a guy in sweat pants coming out and making everyone line up by classes, 1-8 and do warmups, jumping jacks, push-ups.....

You were not allowed to talk during the class. I was standing in front of two idiots who were talking and the 'coach' looks at me and says, "Go back inside, you were talking...." I told him I didn't say anything and he answered, "NOW YOU ARE..."

I went back to my class and had to take the ruler across the hands for being sent back. Boy, was I ticked.....

Most of the time a swat or two wasn't a huge deal. If you were smart, it made you realize that you could not act/be stupid.

There were a few times that the sentence was far worse than the crime.

Our school had lay teachers and nuns.

Some of the nuns were nothing but bullies, they were mean, nasty, brutal and sadistic. And it was always the older ones that were the biggest AHs.

The 'nun dress code' had just changed and the newer crop didn't have to dress like Sister Bertrille. so they were cool and hip. The older ones were really ticked about that they took it out on the kids.

God, those were the days!

[wombat2u2004]

Moderation, mate.
You Aussies start young.

Errrrrrr....I only had a nip or two with Kathy behind the dunny.