Sex abuse in church

[kokopup]

Miss Z

Not intended as a smear, indeed, I would imagine most religious authorities would look to their pontifex above all else. I just wonder what your opinion is on this?

This seems to be addressed to Blue, however I thought I would give my thoughts on your question. First you are using a Term to describe a church leader that has been distorted in recent years. "Pontifex" as it applies to the church would apply only to the Pope of the RCC , since they are the one church organization that has a figure of this statue and power. "Pontifex" has been used by several radical groups such as "White Supremacy" groups here in the US. The RCC Leadership is the only orginization that is really under question by the original post. True there are people in places of power that maybe shouldn't be there. We can not take the position that as long as you have "this" or "that" happening you should not be bad mouthing the church. Discussing the lack of leadership in the church was the whole point of the thread. We can't take the position that the church is off limits as long as Obama is making bad appointments. These are all typical smoke screens that are used by some to high jack a thread. This is so typical.

[Miss Z]

Miss Z


This seems to be addressed to Blue, however I thought I would give my thoughts on your question. First you are using a Term to describe a church leader that has been distorted in recent years. "Pontifex" as it applies to the church would apply only to the Pope of the RCC , since they are the one church organization that has a figure of this statue and power. "Pontifex" has been used by several radical groups such as "White Supremacy" groups here in the US. The RCC Leadership is the only orginization that is really under question by the original post. True there are people in places of power that maybe shouldn't be there. We can not take the position that as long as you have "this" or "that" happening you should not be bad mouthing the church. Discussing the lack of leadership in the church was the whole point of the thread. We can't take the position that the church is off limits as long as Obama is making bad appointments. These are all typical smoke screens that are used by some to high jack a thread. This is so typical.

Thanks kokopup.

Eek, I don't know that much about supremacy sects over there, to be honest. I had no idea 'pontifex' in that context gave such an image! I use it in the purely Latin sense; the chieftain. Will be more careful using that next time.

I agree that the church isn't off limits, but what I was previously getting at, and what I believe Blue was saying, is that such 'corruption' is not exclusive to Catholicism. No matter who or how they worship, there's people who will abuse the system by using it as an excuse when they need to get out of trouble.

I'm an atheist, so the pros and cons and Chinese whispers about each religious division mean nothing to me. I only believe in respect for faiths, so I think picking out supposed flaws in the teaching systems and underlying beliefs of Catholicism only added to the 'let's all point the finger' scenario.

[wombat2u2004]

We can't take the position that the church is off limits as long as Obama is making bad appointments. These are all typical smoke screens that are used by some to high jack a thread. This is so typical.

Yup, gotta agree with you there mate.
From what I've read on this thread, there are some who agree to disagree.