Quote Originally Posted by smokey the elder View Post
Along with the instinct stuff (a couple of pages ago) I forgot to put in the whole power-over-others aspect. This is gender-independent and may come out in men as more sexual abuse, and in women as physical abuse. I don't think kids should be coddled in school; they should also not be subjected to such terrible abuses of any type. It's bullying, pure and simple.
You hit on an important distinction!

Not to get too graphic or into detail? I took a sex ed class and during it the subject of rape was discussed. I cannot remember the way it came up, but 'body parts as weapons' was a topic. Women, don't have that option.

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I don't think parents send their kids to school to be abused or beaten.

But, that being said? I think that many parents do not view their responsibility as parents, seriously. They want to be a kid's friend and have not instilled into their kids that, when they screw up, there is a 'price' to be had.

LOL, Time Outs just leave the kid pi$$ed off he has to sit there and if they are the little -------s they act like?
THey are just seething and planning their next hateful actions. Kinda like a the Kiddie Al Quida Brigade.

A good swat (One, not two, three or pound the crap out of them) is just a reminder that certain behavior is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Lately, parents do not or cannot apply the appropriate level of consequence to a child who misbehaves.

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Parents have lost that edge.

"I am going to crack you across the arse because you -fill in the blank-
This is your penalty!"

(If your/the parent was righteous? They would toss in the disclaimer, IT HURTS ME TO DO THIS!)

You were dealt with in a controlled manner and that was the end of the trauma. I truly believe that there has to be some kind of 'enlightenment' or consequence for kids.

Remember that speeding/parking ticket you got and how ridiculous you sounded as you cursed the heritage of everyone from the guy that wrote it, to the clerk that will open the envelope with your check inside? You got spanked, you vented, you paid. End of Story.


I had mentioned a gal I knew, whose daughter was a 12 years old and was watching porn, smoking, stole the mom's car, almost torched the apartrment they were living in....

The woman thought that the girl was her friend and refused to put the hammer down.

The funniest part? The teen was a hellion at school -she had begun to fight with the niece of the woman who was on the school board and that moron, because of her office, came to threaten the mom about her child.

LOL, both those little twerps had a free pass because the "adult/parental units" were too effing stupid to teach the kids how to act in school and towards each other.

All that being said? There are thousands of teachers who do their jobs competently and justly.

We only hear about the idiots and abusers.

Occasionally? there is the teacher who tapes a kid's mouth shut and the parent's go ballistic because someone is tired of your evil spawn's running at the mouth and being rude, crude and just plain evil.

Why are you getting upset at this when you put up with the same, may worse, attitude at home?

You can't handle you brat at home and expect someone to do your job?

Adult, please!

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Marinate on this one?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=36146872?


Watch the second clip about the "Nazi" comment made by a parent who's child screwed up.

This AH parent refuses to accept the fact that her kid is a little trouble maker.

Moron.