Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[lizbud]

Good picture of Obama. but really you should give credit to the NRA.
They love to scare folks into buying more guns by spreading fear. They
laugh all the way to the bank.

[Cincy'sMom]

Not to take the thread a different direction, but how 'bout a gun as a medical device....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16207

[Cinder & Smoke]

... how 'bout a gun as a medical device....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16207

OH YIPPIE!!




Granny sez: Have PALM PISTOL - Will SHOOT (anything I think I see)!

Maybe get her TWO - one for each arthritic hand!

Wonder who will be the first to hold it UPside Down, squeezing the safety switches,
then rest it on a table or their own leg ... *BLAM!* ...
HEY - Where'd my kneecap go?

Poor Mom ~ How did she ever survive 'Old Age' without one?

[Cincy'sMom]

OH YIPPIE!!


Poor Mom ~ How did she ever survive 'Old Age' without one?

That is a good questions. After all:

""It's something that they need to assist them in daily living," says Matthew Carmel, president of Constitution Arms in Maplewood, New Jersey, which hopes to manufacture the Palm Pistol - now just a patent and specifications.

"The justification for this would be no more or less for a [walking aid] or wheelchair, or any number of things that are medical devices," he says."

Come on, daily living?!? Same justification as a wheel chair?!?

[lizbud]

That is a good questions. After all:

""It's something that they need to assist them in daily living," says Matthew Carmel, president of Constitution Arms in Maplewood, New Jersey, which hopes to manufacture the Palm Pistol - now just a patent and specifications.

"The justification for this would be no more or less for a [walking aid] or wheelchair, or any number of things that are medical devices," he says."

Come on, daily living?!? Same justification as a wheel chair?!?

Does this mean you have to be kind to grandma, or you'll apt to get shot
by mistake?

[caseysmom]

Those folks from that nursing home could have used some of those.

[lizbud]

Those folks from that nursing home could have used some of those.

It's funny, but that thought did occur to me too.

[Lady's Human]

Liz, the NRA doesn't make one red cent when someone buys a gun.

[Cinder & Smoke]

... how 'bout a gun as a medical device....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16207

FDA approves handgun for the handicapped

Single-shot gun designed for those crippled by arthritis,
muscular dystrophy ...


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has accepted a conceptual, ergonomic 9mm handgun —
designed for people crippled by arthritis, muscular dystrophy, or similar conditions
that render them too weak to operate normal handguns — as a Class 1 Medical Device.
The single-shot gun, dubbed the Palm Pistol, is "an adaptive tool
that allows someone otherwise incapable of handling a revolver or semiautomatic weapon
to operate one," said Matthew Carmel of Constitution Arms,
the New Jersey-based company developing the gun.
Thanks to the gun's designation as a medical device,
doctors could eventually write prescriptions for it and then be reimbursed by Medicare.

Full Article at >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28116693/

Good Grief!

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But *WAIT* ~ there's an UppieDate on MSNBC now >>>

The Latest Version of this Pistol Tail >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28116693/

FDA nixes proposed ‘prescription pistol’

By The AP:
WASHINGTON - It could have been the world's first prescription pistol.
The single-bullet Palm Pistol set the Internet abuzz with speculation that Medicare
might even pay for the elderly and disabled to pack heat.
But on Monday the Food and Drug Administration said the Palm Pistol
doesn't have a shot of being listed as a medical device, and
revoked the registration issued to its inventor only last week.
"The FDA has determined the product is not a medical device," the agency said in a statement.
... FDA spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey said Carmel apparently
got some bad advice from a representative of the agency.
And maybe he should have paid more attention to the fine print on the registration notice.
It said: "Registering ... does not, in any way,
constitute FDA approval of your facility or your devices."
An earlier version of this article reported that the FDA had accepted the Palm Pistol
as a medical device, based on last week's registration.
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Granny, how far can you toss a Hand Grenade?

[Cincy'sMom]

[IMG]
FDA nixes proposed ‘prescription pistol’

By The AP:
WASHINGTON - It could have been the world's first prescription pistol.
The single-bullet Palm Pistol set the Internet abuzz with speculation that Medicare
might even pay for the elderly and disabled to pack heat.
But on Monday the Food and Drug Administration said the Palm Pistol
doesn't have a shot of being listed as a medical device, and
revoked the registration issued to its inventor only last week.
"The FDA has determined the product is not a medical device," the agency said in a statement.
... FDA spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey said Carmel apparently
got some bad advice from a representative of the agency.
And maybe he should have paid more attention to the fine print on the registration notice.
It said: "Registering ... does not, in any way,
constitute FDA approval of your facility or your devices."
An earlier version of this article reported that the FDA had accepted the Palm Pistol
as a medical device, based on last week's registration.
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[B]B]

Great news! I was really afraid we were going to have to start testing the plastics these are made from in our chemistry lab!! AS hard as I am on the chemist's sometimes, I'd hate to arm them with medical devices!!!

[blue]

With all the death medical devices contributes to we really dont need more.



Some here have stated that gun ownership should be curbed due to the deaths of children, when the lives thousands of unborn children are ended yearly with legal medical procedures. It seems to me there are more responsisble gun owners then people not wanting to reproduce, or act responsively. On the large responsible gun owners kill less children.

Keep in mind you do not have the Right to infringe upon the Rights of others, and I have the authority to protect my Rights.

[blue]

Good picture of Obama. but really you should give credit to the NRA.
They love to scare folks into buying more guns by spreading fear. They
laugh all the way to the bank.

Like the media would allow any poor picture of Barry to be published.

As LH pointed out the NRA dosent profit from gun sales.

The NRA, Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership, and Gun Owners of America are profiting from a surge in their memberships because of the news of the next AWB, the talk of higher taxes on ammo, and that first time gun buyers are up 30% to 300% depending on the part of the country reporting.

Very few gun stores are not jacking up their prices due to demand. Impactguns is out of stock on many of the firearms that will fall under the possible coming AWB, they still have the exotics, NFA weapons, and weapons that are simmilar to but not subjected to the last AWB.

If the talk of the new AWB does come to pass, and I see no reason it wont, it still wont affect weapons that fall under the National Firearms Act; ie machine guns, silencers/suppresors, short barrel rifles and all other weapons will all still be legal and taxable. It wont protect you from people with illegal or controlled weapons that are in their possesion. It wont protect you from people who are carrying illegally. Many citizens, maybe not you and yours, will be in more danger because legal firearms will be taken off the streets and out of homes.

[blue]

Just for funnay.

[lizbud]

Just for funnay.

I'm not laughing. Why is a dog in that picture?

[cmayer31]

Isn't this thread a little ray of sunshine .

To preface my post:
- I don't carry a gun with me at all times.
- I'm not afraid of most areas of the city I live in.
- I'm not afraid of a hostile military taking over my house.

- I do carry a small pocket knife with me when I jog.
- I do carry pepper spray, a utility knife, and a hunting knife quite often when I'm alone in the back country, or more than a day's hike/run from the truck.
- I am terrified of the 10 blocks of gang neighborhoods adjacent to where I live.
- In the last 12 months my house has been burglarized 3 times. Luckily without a break-in, just stolen property from the front yard and side yard. The local police were notified and reports taken each time.
- In the last 12 months my truck has been broken into twice including last month when my tail gate was stolen. The local police were notified and reports taken both times.

I own a shotgun that is broken down and stored in its case (An over under style trap gun). I legally target shoot most weekends during the winter for my own personal enjoyment and to keep the gun in good working condition and to keep my skill level up.

I keep two rounds of dove shot within easy reach of my bed and I can assemble the gun in less than a minute. If one of the local thieves finally gets the nerve to break inside the house, and I have time, I will load the gun and make sure it is known that I am armed. The majority of thieves near where I live are petty thieves and migrant workers looking for quick cash. The police are aware of it and try to make a presence at night, but they can't be everywhere at once. The simple notion of a home owner awake and with a gun will, in my opinion, lead to the average petty criminal fleeing the property.

An acquaintance of mine was mugged at 7am a couple of Saturdays ago while jogging around Lake Hodges, he was forced to give up his cell phone and drivers license, the only things he had, at knife point. Until this incedint I never even thought twice about taking Frankie hiking through here in the morning. Now I'm jumping at every sound when I'm near the lake and will probably carry a can of bear spray with me when I hike. It sucks that I have to live with this fear, but again that's how it is now. I'm hearing more and more of these stories as the times become more strained.

Next June I'll be going on my annual camping/back country hiking trip that will include 2-3 days of backpacking. Normally the people I hike with do carry small caliber handguns that are easy to pack and carry. Normally I would never consider carrying a firearm beyond a long rifle or shotgun, but this year I'm seriously considering picking up a pistol or revolver, trigger lock, and small ammo box to take with me on the trip. Maybe I am starting to live in a box of fear, but it isn't unwarranted from my personal experiences and those of people I know personally.

No matter what, gun safety should always come first and if I did have kids in the house I would own a gun safe and not leave a key in the house where it could be found by a kid looking for it. So for me a gun is my right and I choose to protect that right by being a responsible gun owner; same as I'd expect from everyone.