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    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...6?OpenDocument

    Cops: Cape Girardeau woman kills man who returned to rape her second time

    Ronnie Preyer.
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    Photo from Cape Girardeau County Sheriff's Department. (=)By Heather Ratcliffe
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    10/31/2008

    An intended rape victim shot and killed her attacker this morning in Cape Girardeau when he broke into her home to rape her a second time, police said.

    The 57-year-old woman shot Ronnie W. Preyer, 47, a registered sex offender, in the chest with a shotgun when he broke through her locked basement door.
    The woman told police he was the same man who raped her several days earlier. Officials do not intend to seek charges against her.

    In the first incident, the woman heard glass breaking in her basement about midnight on Saturday. She went to leave the house, and the man attacked when she opened the front door. He punched her in the face and then forced her into a bedroom, where he raped her, said H. Morley Swingle, prosecuting attorney in Cape Girardeau County.

    The victim reported the crime to police, and her landlord repaired the broken window.

    She was home alone again Friday about 2:15 a.m. when Preyer broke the same basement window. The victim was awake watching television, when Preyer switched off the electricity to her house.

    She tried to call 911, but couldn't because the power was off. She got a shotgun and waited as the man began banging on the basement door. She fired when Preyer came crashing through the door. When Preyer collapsed, the woman escaped and went to a neighbor's home, where she called police. Officers, who arrived within a minute, found a bleeding Preyer stumbling away from the house. He was taken to St. Francis Medical Center, where he died several hours later.

    Swingle said the victim identified Preyer as the attacker in both incidents. Preyer, of Jackson, Mo., had wet caulking from the recently repaired basement window on his clothing when he was shot.

    "I will not be filing any sort of charge against this 57-year-old woman, who was clearly justified under the law in shooting this intruder in her home," Swingle said.




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    One of the proper uses of firearms, self protection. Im glad the local PD feel the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    One of the proper uses of firearms, self protection. Im glad the local PD feel the same way.
    Me too. But interesting that no one else has responded.

    Honestly I was waiting for someone to say that she shouldn't have killed him, that she should have called the police or something.

    GOOD FOR HER. this is why the right to bare arms is important... the right to PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY. but some people fail to see that point because OTHERS die at the hands of criminals who don't care about gun control and laws.

    But even if it means I will go to jail... I WILL protect my daughters life from the scum of the earth. I will do WHATEVER it takes. I may succeed... I may fail... but I will do my very best to ensure her safety. Are you going to take that away from me? If someone starts a thread saying that a predator came into their home and murdered their child because they couldn't defend themselves and the police didn't get there in time... will there be a thread full of OUTRAGE?




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    Are you serious Sparky? You expect as much response to a criminal being shot as to a child being shot?

    Oooookay.

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    Absolutely, ES, where's the righteous indignation about guns?

    After all, a life is a life, right?
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Comments from Bobby Knight, former college coach in men's basketball.

    1988 — In an NBC interview with Connie Chung, who asked how he handles stress, Knight says: "I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it." He explains he was talking about something beyond one's control, not the act of rape..

    Or, you can pull out a gun and shoot the jerk. I think that shooting the moron saved me some tax dollars. I like it when the public gets involved with the fiscal matters of government.

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    i'm on the bandwagon that guns don't kill people - PEOPLE pull the trigger- and kill people. I don't own a gun tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post

    Or, you can pull out a gun and shoot the jerk.
    I think that shooting the moron saved me some tax dollars.
    I like it when the public gets involved with the fiscal matters of government.
    I'm all for savin a buck or two ... FIRE away!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Absolutely, ES, where's the righteous indignation about guns?

    After all, a life is a life, right?
    You are so cute when you put words in my mouth LH! Of course, that is easier than say...producing these statistics you talk about!

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    No, not putting words in your mouth, ES, I'm not going to take over your job.

    You seem to do quite well putting words in other people's mouths, PT needs only one expert in that regard.

    Once again, the statistics about firearms used in self defense are readily available.

    Google, anyone? Again, I see no need to search fr a topic for someone when google will bring up plenty of intormation with a few keystrokes

    Of course, if you actually did the search, you'd be one less thing to carp about, so heaven forbid you actually took it upon ourself to search.
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    I'll say
    "well done". I'd have done the same thing if I were in her position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shais_mom View Post
    I'll say
    "well done". I'd have done the same thing if I were in her position.
    Agreed. Good for her. This just goes to show that you cannot put your own safety in the hands of anyone but yourself. You can't count on the police to come and save you. but some people want to take away the ability for women like this to protect themselves.




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    I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment since I don't own a gun, but I totally agree with Sparks. I have thought about getting a gun - even if it is a simple pistol look-alike bb gun. As a single woman living alone sometimes I get scared. Yes I have a big dog, but I'm not entirely sure WHAT she'd do if I was threatened. I **think** she would protect me. She sure has bared her teeth at people she doesn't like but she's never taken that to the next measure. And unless my life is being threatened I don't want her to. Even if my life was threatened I'm sure there'd be repercussions of having a dog responsible for biting someone.
    But I don't like the idea of taking away my RIGHT to bear arms either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shais_mom View Post
    I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment since I don't own a gun, but I totally agree with Sparks. I have thought about getting a gun - even if it is a simple pistol look-alike bb gun.

    You're gonna put you eye out with it!!

    I have a good .22 cal pellet gun, it's a one shot pump, should I ever need to use it, I have one shot, then I'll be forced to go MMA afterwards.
    It's good practice should you ever want to own a real gun.

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    Just b/c I disagree with you Sara doesn't mean I'm wrong.
    I think you are so passionate about your beliefs you forget that. But I never said you were wrong about anything. Other's may have but I didn't. If he shot himself its his parents fault for giving him the gun, if they aren't smart enough to not give him a gun, then they belong in jail.
    And quite frankly - I've no clue what you are talking about b/c I didn't read the rest of this thread nor do I intend too...
    you have freedom of speech - others request their right to bear arms. Do you think words don't cause people to kill themselves over the hurt of them? Ohhhh yea - that's right - its the GUN'S fault when someone kills themself.
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