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    I believe people who are in prison should have basic human needs met. Healthy food, clean water, clothes, shelter, sanitation. I do not think it is right to subject an inmate to rotten food or lethal temperature extremes.

    IMO, if we (as tax payers and voters) cannot treat another human being with basic survival rights, then are we not also commiting the crime of abuse and neglect? Does that not make us no better then the criminals we are in charge of incarcerating?

    However, I do not believe prisoners should live in spa-like conditions. If prison offers one more comforts than one had on the outside, does that not remove a lot of the motivation to reform oneself?

    Speaking for me personally, I believe in the death penalty. I believe that certain people who commit truly heinous crimes should be put to death. I do not believe that someone who tortured, raped and murdered dozens of people deserves to live.
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    Our county jail here in Allentown, Lehigh County Prison, was rebuilt/remodeled a few years back. It's amazing looking from the outside. It also has a reputed gorgeous basketball court and workout area. I knew of guys who were friends of the workers in there who went in there to work out. Gotta love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian View Post
    Our county jail here in Allentown, Lehigh County Prison, was rebuilt/remodeled a few years back. It's amazing looking from the outside. It also has a reputed gorgeous basketball court and workout area. I knew of guys who were friends of the workers in there who went in there to work out. Gotta love it.
    Sounds just like the jails out here. Maybe if conditions weren't so luxurious there would be less crime. Some inmates who have finished their term actually don't want out since they know they won't get as much as they did inside these jails...they might have to actually work to earn a living and enjoy the luxuries...heaven forbid they should work to earn their own way.

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    Here is an honest to god question about some of the posts on this thread.

    What is so "luxurious" about living in a concrete box about 12x8 feet?
    About having to shower with 10,20,30 people at a time?
    About eating some shiat on a shingle that you have no control over?
    Worrying about someone taking a sharp toothbrush and taking out -insert
    body part here-?
    About not being able to talk walk, go to the fridge at night or dressing up the way you want to, when you want to?
    Next time you go to a gym think about having to share the equipment with some nasty inmate, or getting your head dented with a dumbbell?

    If you think that living under those conditions is wonderful, People in the United States are far more well off than we want to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Here is an honest to god question about some of the posts on this thread.

    What is so "luxurious" about living in a concrete box about 12x8 feet?
    About having to shower with 10,20,30 people at a time?
    About eating some shiat on a shingle that you have no control over?
    Worrying about someone taking a sharp toothbrush and taking out -insert
    body part here-?
    About not being able to talk walk, go to the fridge at night or dressing up the way you want to, when you want to?
    Next time you go to a gym think about having to share the equipment with some nasty inmate, or getting your head dented with a dumbbell?

    If you think that living under those conditions is wonderful, People in the United States are far more well off than we want to admit.
    I do agree with you on this RICHARD. I cannot help but wonder if they people yelling about the "luxurious" prisions have ever actually seen one? I have not and do not want to. But from what I have seen on news, etc. they sure don't look like someplace I'd commit a crime just to get into!

    We often say that liberty is the most valuable thing there is. So, isn't depriving someone of their liberty the greatest punishment?

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