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Thread: Firearms. Yea or Nay?

  1. #61
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    Hey i get where you are coming from on this issue, i agree with you, like i said before even our police are not armed ,and i would hate to see the day when everyone could own a gun for protection,i hope i never see it happen in NZ.
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  2. #62
    Unfortunately too many parents try to just hide the guns from their kids rather than TEACH them about guns and gun safety and teach them respect for the weapons. Hannah will be taught gun safety and respect all her life on top of being kept out of her reach when not in use. Education is key. You NEVER point a gun at someone or something unless you intend to USE it ... whether you think the gun is loaded or not. That lesson will be drilled into her constantly.




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  3. #63
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    Great to see you going to teach Hannah about guns, but wouldn't it be better if you really never had to, it is something I have never had to teach my children, because you cannot own a gun for protection here, but of course you can still have one for hunting purposes,and shooting sports, but you have to be registered,it does not mean that guns are not used for crime here, because they are,but i have never needed to learn my kids about guns,as they just are not a part of our life in anyway.If only it were a perfect world eh?
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    RIP my gorgeous Sooti, taken from us far too young, we miss your beautiful face and purssonality,take care of Ash for us, love you xx000❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Ash,your pawprints are forever in my heart, love and miss you so much my big boy. ❤️❤️

    RIP my sweet gorgeous girl Ellie-Mae, a little battler to the end, you will never ever be forgotten, your little soul is forever in my heart, my thoughts, my memories, my love for you will never die, Love you my darling little precious girl.❤️❤️

    RIP our sweet Nikita taken suddenly ,way too soon ,you were a special girl we loved you so much ,miss you ❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Lexie, 15 years of unconditional love you gave us, we loved you so much, and miss you more than words can say.❤️❤️

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  4. Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    Unfortunately too many parents try to just hide the guns from their kids rather than TEACH them about guns and gun safety and teach them respect for the weapons. Hannah will be taught gun safety and respect all her life on top of being kept out of her reach when not in use. Education is key. You NEVER point a gun at someone or something unless you intend to USE it ... whether you think the gun is loaded or not. That lesson will be drilled into her constantly.
    Just a few weeks ago you said that a parent is not responsible for the sexual conduct of their teenagers because teenagers are going to do what they want to regardless of the parents' teaching...or something to that effect. Regarding Ms. Palin's unwed pregnant teenage daughter.

    Wouldn't that hold true about gun safety as well? So teaching gun safety would not any more prevent a gun accident than teaching abstinance prevent a pregnancy?

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by carole View Post
    Great to see you going to teach Hannah about guns, but wouldn't it be better if you really never had to, it is something I have never had to teach my children, because you cannot own a gun for protection here, but of course you can still have one for hunting purposes,and shooting sports, but you have to be registered,it does not mean that guns are not used for crime here, because they are,but i have never needed to learn my kids about guns,as they just are not a part of our life in anyway.If only it were a perfect world eh?
    Well my husband hunts so we have guns in our home.




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  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Just a few weeks ago you said that a parent is not responsible for the sexual conduct of their teenagers because teenagers are going to do what they want to regardless of the parents' teaching...or something to that effect. Regarding Ms. Palin's unwed pregnant teenage daughter.

    Wouldn't that hold true about gun safety as well? So teaching gun safety would not any more prevent a gun accident than teaching abstinance prevent a pregnancy?
    Errrrr... yeah it's pretty much the same thing....

    I'm not going to teach hannah abstinence only... I am going to teach her how to have SAFE sex. I can't expect her not to have sex so I am going to teach her how to do it in the safest way possible. teaching abstinence only is just as bad as keeping a gun locked up in a cabinet and not teaching them how to handle it SAFELY.

    Ultimately when she is 16 I'm going to be the uncool mom with the rules and she is going to try to push the boundaries. I can't expect her to not have sex until she is married just because I said "NO" but I CAN teach her how to do it safely to help PREVENT an accident.

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    So not really sure what your point was here and what I said was her daughter getting pregnant does not mean she is a bad parent as I am sure she wasn't standing over the bed encouraging it. But her daughter obviously missed the lesson on how to do so safely




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  7. #67
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    On September 15 a local 17 year old boy took a gun to school and shot himself in the bathroom, I don't know where he got the gun but chances are it was in the home...you just hear of too many of those stories, its just harder to kill yourself by other means.
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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    On September 15 a local 17 year old boy took a gun to school and shot himself in the bathroom, I don't know where he got the gun but chances are it was in the home...you just hear of too many of those stories, its just harder to kill yourself by other means.
    I disagree. There are lots of ways to kill yourself and these ways take place everyday. I could offer an example of just about every single one from people that i have known. Like my friends uncle who hung himself, or my sisters friend who went home one night and overdosed on pills knowing that no one would find him until it was too late as he lived alone, etc etc. these happen just as often if not more often... but you don't hear about it on the front page of the news because it wasn't with a gun. but it happens all the time unfortunately




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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    I disagree. There are lots of ways to kill yourself and these ways take place everyday. I could offer an example of just about every single one from people that i have known. Like my friends uncle who hung himself, or my sisters friend who went home one night and overdosed on pills knowing that no one would find him until it was too late as he lived alone, etc etc. these happen just as often if not more often... but you don't hear about it on the front page of the news because it wasn't with a gun. but it happens all the time unfortunately
    I see your point and I am willing to listen to it...another 17 year old boy did hang himself a few years back.
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    I see your point and I am willing to listen to it...another 17 year old boy did hang himself a few years back.
    UGH... it's so sad to hear about all these young kids that are feeling so hopeless that they end their lives ... no matter the means




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  11. #71
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    Both were very tragic. The 17 year old that hung himself was having problems and arguing with his mother and was taking anti depressants. His sister, who is my daughters friend, found him. It was very traumatic for all involved.

    The other boy apparantly had asked a girl to homecoming and she said no and he also had a lot of pressure being in an honors program at the school.
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  12. #72
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    I guess Im the exception that enjoys the time spent doing target practice. I can hold my own shooting against better rifles, and I take pride in that skill.

    Shooting is a skill, shouldnt shooting with a lesser firearm be commended?
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  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    I guess Im the exception that enjoys the time spent doing target practice. I can hold my own shooting against better rifles, and I take pride in that skill.

    Shooting is a skill, shouldnt shooting with a lesser firearm be commended?

    Sure... But are you just learning to compensate for a less accurate rifle? LOL

    Like my new deer rifle... Savage 110 in .270 Win. The "book" says use a 130 grain bullet. I am using 150. Why? I want to ensure a clean and instant kill. Bigger bullet increases the chances of that happening. BUT, that means I need to get a better feel for bullet drop over standard ranges. It is going to drop more. After a few hours on the range (and a sore shoulder) I feel I am ready. Sure, I could buy a better scope (I have a flat 3x9) but I also work for living and pay cash ONLY. LOL

    This is not to say the savage is not accurate.... I am just using ammo that is not the "book" type.

    Errrr, what was my point? LOL Oh yeah, to pick on Dan.

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  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post

    Errrr, what was my point? LOL Oh yeah, to pick on Dan.

    AK's drool.

    LOL I'm starting to second guess the offer to have both of you visiting in the same house LOL.




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  15. #75
    I say yes to guns, one county in my state has a law that states that you must own a gun within your household or pay a fine. The crime rate has dropped dramatically there. I say the only use for guns is self defense, you really shouldnt use them for anything else.


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