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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    In SoCal a police officer - who I assume was trained in firearm safety - did something rather unsafe. His three year old son in the back seat of his pickup grabbed his service revolver and shot dad in the back. Dad is paralyzed and is -- of course -- suing all sorts of people, inlcuding a client of mine. This will probably be the last straw for my client and they will go out of business. Being trained in firearm safety does not guarantee anything. But then someone will have to pay for the son's therapy.

    If the intent of the Founding Fathers is considered infallible, wouldn't that mean the slavery of black people, the disenfranchisement of women, just to name a few of the changes of the last 200 years?

    The Constitution is a living document -- or at least so I hope!
    This is a shame. However, this is dad's fault, not the gun. Especially considering he was a Police Officer.

    We can be free or we can be "safer". I choose free. The things you mentioned being changed allowed for more freedom. Banning firearms will REMOVE freedom. Without a way to resist tyranny, we are nothing but chattle.

    Besides, a Consitutional Amendment to ban something? A dangerous precedent, eh? Just as I would oppose an amendment to repeal the 2nd Amendment, I would also oppose an amendment to 'define' marriage or to ban abortion.

    Our Constitution should set us free, not limit us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    They say that the BIG EARTHQUAKE will happen within the next 30 years.
    Oh yes, and I remember hearing that 30 years ago as well, and I do believe it will happen some day - although he climate change may ruin to earth before that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    When the Big EQ hits here many people will by looking for a free things. I can imagine that the criminals will be out and about looking for things to steal from stores and citizens.
    No doubt about it, they will! But I don't think that pointing a gun at them is the right way to tackle it. It would be better to educate people and make an effort to minimize the gap between rich and poor, because poverty is often the cause for people getting violent. When they have come to a point where they have nothing to lose ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    .... law abiding, gun owning Americans are not the people the rest of the world THINKS we are. (Or should I say TOLD we are by the media?)
    While I’m aware that media can twist and bend facts, you have to admit that a lot of shootings have happened over the last few years in USA - and escalating in other countries too. So many innocent people/children have lost their lives. It might have been prevented if it wasn’t normal to own a gun. A gun can shoot many people, and although knives can too, it would take a lot longer. I’m not in favor of anyone carrying knives either, by the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    EVERYone can't get a gun. There is a background check required.
    OK I believe that a background check is required, but it’s not worth much is it, since the agressive maniacs manage to get hold of guns anyway, one way or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Being trained in firearm safety does not guarantee anything.
    Accidents such as this happen too, it is very sad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    We can be free or we can be "safer".
    I would like to believe we can both free and safe! It is possible in some countries where guns are banned, you know!



    "I don't know which weapons will be used in the third World war, but in the fourth, it will be sticks and stones" --- Albert Einstein.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi View Post
    OK I believe that a background check is required, but it’s not worth much is it, since the agressive maniacs manage to get hold of guns anyway, one way or the other.
    EXACTLY. Gun laws only effect the law abiding.


    I would like to believe we can both free and safe! It is possible in some countries where guns are banned, you know!
    Define 'free'. Hows your tax rate?
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

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