Pit bulls??

[wolfsoul]

I have been bitten/attacked by SO many dogs the past couple of weeks, suddenly every dog wants to eat me. Now I get bitten nearly every day but I never classify them as attacks unless they draw blood or they are really scary, so this is ridiculous. So for those who think pitties are bad..

Last week a golden jumped on me with such a force that he pushed me off the drying bench. I was lucky I moved my head out of the way, he tried to bite me in the face. The day after a maltese tore up my hand. The day after a lab went after my face and actually got me. My chin was bruised for a couple of days and I had a puncture wound in my hand and one slice down my finger. A couple days ago a golden attacked my arm and my hand. My arm is still all bruised and I have two puncture wounds in my hand. I had to muzzle him the entire time I dired and groomed him because he kept going after me. Yesterday a lab went for my face (missed thank god, this thing is huge!), and a sheltie cocker mix got my hand.

But not one single pit bull, rottweiler, etc etc. In fact of all the large dogs I get bit or attacked by goldens most often.

[MajesticCollies]

Well we all have our thoughts on the subject. My Steele boy's brother had his lower jaw literaly ripped off his face from a charging pitbull while he was on his leash. Although they can be real sweet with humans (which I have experienced) I would NEVER trust them around my Collies. They are great to watch in the Conformation ring though.
Now you know why your customers don't learn to groom thier own dogs lol
Here's an attachment of my 10 yr old daughter learning to dry and groom for her first time with a Collie

[wolf_Q]

Ouch! I had a dog bite me in the face once as well, he didn't get me bad, but it sure scared me (it was a chow/aussie mix). I haven't actually been bitten (hard enough to bleed) in a very long time *knock on wood* I guess I have good reflexes heh, j/k. For the record the 3 worst bites I've had were by a persian cat and 2 miniature poodles.

My opinion is that every dog will bite, regardless of breed or size that is how they defend themselves. Some dogs just have a very high tolerance level and would only bite in extreme circumstances, and others will bite over anything sometimes without warning.

We did have one pit bull problem. It was a female that seemed pretty well cared for and she was very sweet with the groomer when she was bathed. But later she managed to get out of her cage and attack the first dog she saw without any sort of provocation at all (the dog she attacked was very sweet and mellow, didn't even fight back) and it took 3 people to beat the dog off, then the dog turned on them and bit one girl pretty bad.

I'm not in any means saying all pitties are like that, every other one I've met has been extremely sweet. I've also had a malamute and a german shepherd try to attack me (separate incidences); I guarantee if they were not wearing muzzles at the time I would have been in the hospital. I don't hold that against the entire breeds, that's ridiculous. There's a guy who comes in with several GSDs all rescue dogs that were abused and they are just the sweetest, most well behaved dogs.

I've never had a problem with golden retrievers that I can think of; they've all been very nice (sometimes rambunctious but not mean) dogs. The majority of dogs that try to bite at my work are small dogs. There are some really wonderful dogs of every breed, and some really mean ones too which in most cases is caused by the owner mistreating the dog or just lack of training.

[luvofallhorses]

My opinion is that every dog will bite, reguardless of breed or size that is how they defend themselves. Some dogs just have a very high tolerance level and would only bite in extreme circumstances, and others will bite over anything sometimes without warning.

I agree 100%.

[Jadapit]

Gosh Amy, that is to bad the pit bull did that. I think it all comes down to the owner if you own a pit you the owner should know if he/she is dog aggressive or not. I get so tired of stupid pit bull owners. That is why the breed had such a bad name.

I have never had any problems with Ebony and another dog but I would never leave her alone with another dog, it is up to ME to keep her and any other dog out of harms way.

I feel really bad for all of you that have had bad dealings with pit bulls because they really are an amazing breed its to bad some owners have to ruin that.

I wonder why people even tak a pittie to a groomer? There isnt much to groom on them. It must be to bathe them and clip their nails.

Woflsoul, I'm sorry for all the bites you have gotten that would suck.

Flatcoat, those pit tails are deadly weapons aren't they?

[areias]

Agreed, I've only ever been bitten by a lab and a bichon, and most of the dogs that attempted to bite me were small dogs, pomeranians and schnauzers mostly that I can remember. The groomer I worked with once said she has been bitten 7 times, and every single time it was a Golden. She must have really bad luck with them, lol.

[DrKym]

All I can say in this is A) I was guilty of an awful dog (toy poodle who after she turned 15 became very rotten to her groomer) and B) not guilty on the basis that my cocker is a doll at the groomers! I groomed years ago for almost 9 years and was bitten twice both by bassets

[wolfsoul]

I guarantee if they were not wearing muzzles at the time I would have been in the hospital.

You have no idea how many times I've said that lol. One time I was grooming a GSD and I muzzled her after she tried to bite me. Started brushing, and two seconds later she turned around and I felt her teeth hit me between the mouth and nose. My face would have been gone.

I do have to say, worst breed to groom --- the Belgian. They SUCK to groom. Visa is awesome because she's been groomed forever, but the majority of them are never groomed at home. I haven't been bittenby one yet, but it's been close. They are the one breed that I really really watch while I'm doing anything to it.

[Flatcoatluver]

Lets see at work I have been bitten by...
2 corgis
maltese
I can't even count how many labs and lab mixes I have been bitten by
a golden
2 PWD
lets see 3 different designer breeds
and not once have I been bitten by a "aggresive breed" and yes we get tons of "aggresive breeds in". Are best dogs at work are the "aggresive breeds"


BUT OUCH THOSE PIT BULL TAILS HURT REALLY BAD!! This lovely pitbull named Stella is a major tail wagger and her tail is like a wip!

[Alysser]

Now, I hate to say it but Sassy isn't the friendliest of dogs. She WILL AND DOES bite when she feels she needs to, sometimes out of the blue. She has bitten me 6-7 times in my life(seperate incidents.) One, when I was five(when we got her.) I pulled her tail and she bit me. Nothing major, it didn't break even the skin. I'd say it was more of a nip. She bit me twice last year because I was taking pictures of her and I guess she didn't want it. Agian, nothing major. She bit me 4 times on the arm. Only one broke the skin but it didn't bleed. If there even was another accident, I don't remember. She bit a toddler twice because they were annoying her. They pulled her tail, she didn't even growl(they're brother and sister.). They slap her, and she snarls at them to get away. The boy slaps her agian and she bites him. Nothing happened except for it broke the skin. The girl was bitten without the skin being broken. Well, anyway I have also been bitten by a Jack Russel terrier, German Shepherd, a few poodles, and a shih tzu but nothing else. Yeah and they say pitbulls bite the most? I think, generally, people are scared of pitbulls more because they are said to have stronger jawbones. Is this even true? I heard from a former friend, you would have to break an English bulldogs jaw to get it off, but I don't believe it.

Sorry, this stuff happened to you, Wolfsoul! I'm glad to hear it was nothing serious.

EDITED: Forgot to add, today I was attacked my friends Shih Tzu. It broke the skin and I have a bruise. There will definatly be a scar. I was trying to pick him up because my friend was doing something on the floor and she didn't want him on the floor, so told me to put him on the couch. He growled and bit me. Dogs just really hate me....

I just want to add, Jadapit, you are truley the most responsible Pitbull owner I "know". Your girls were raised properly and inturn, turned out to be the most friendliest of pitties. They're all lovley.

[Jadapit]

Jadapit...that didn't happen to MY daughter.

Oop's my bad, sorry about that. I'm going to say one more thing then I will shut up. So many times its the owners that make pits the way they are. I believe any "big" dog shouldn't be left alone with little kids I know I would never leave my three alone with little kids. So many times there are two sides to the story when there is a pit attack you usually only hear the medias side they are known for getting the facts wrong most the time.

As you said its the breeders that are ruining the breed so in the end of things its the HUMANS fault not the dogs. What if all this BSL crap was happening to your collie? Would you sit by and let it happen or stand up for the breed? Someone has to stand up for the thousands of GOOD pit bulls and their owners.

[Love That Collie]

Jadapit, and it's truely sad that it has happened to the breed and all of it
isn't some of the owners of pit bulls fault, I think the fault lies at the feet
of the breeders. Even if you have had 5 generations of good,good pit bull
parents, the traits of the next generation back from those 5 generations can
rear its ugly head, that pair could have been bred to fight as is part of the problem with the breed. Gladly this is not a trait of a Collie and nooooo I am not saying that a Collie has never bitten, they have bitten, all breeds have bitten, but it would boggle your mind to know that there are so many full blown attacks by PB's in the U.S. every year and it's not getting much better.
The police reports, court filings and insurance claims confirm this. I do truely
feel sorry for this breed in particular.

I don't know if that primarily is the reason that PB's make the news for a bite
or if it's the severity of the attack and outcome that is the reason and I wouldn't trust the media as far as I can throw them which is why there is research involved.

I believe that NO dog should bite unless it or it's owner is in imminent danger whether the dog be large OR small it doesn't matter. A small dog just doesn't
have as much power, the power is part of the point. It's like someone trying
to defend themselves with a .25 caliber handgun against a person with a
heat seeking guided missile so to speak.

[wolfsoul]

The majority of supposed pit bull attacks are not actually done by pit bulls, but breeds that look similar. Most of the reports of the lady who had a face transplant said that a pit bull was the dog responsible -- however, it was her pet labrador retriever. Most surveys will tell you that the labrador retriever is the #1 biter in North America.

I hate it when people say that pit bulls are genetically predisposed to attack -- they have no more predispostion than any other breed. They are terriers. They were bred to bait bulls and kill rats. They were NOT bred to fight until later on. Fighting is not something you can breed. Unlike pit bulls, boxers WERE originally bred to fight, and look at them. They are younger than the pit bull and yet they seem to be fine. Pit bulls are terriers --- like all other terriers, they do have a tendency towards being dominant --- this is something that can be fixed with training. And, like all other terriers, they are bred to hold on. Pitties were bred to bait bulls --- if they let go of that bull, they are dead. They do not "lock" their jaws --- it is in their instinct, as with all other terriers, to hold on or die. Even a jack russell will hold on for dear life -- that rat could kill it. But pit bulls were also bred to be family dogs. They slept in the children's beds. And so any dog that showed any tendency towards aggression towards humans was culled. Nowadays of course, with backyard breeders and puppy mills, we do not always have this. But with good breeders, we do. It is not true that mixing five generations of good dogs can create an aggressive litter. A good breeder mixes temperments properly. A complete outcross is more unpredictable in temperment than a linebreeding, but the breeder would have done their research on similar outcrosses.

[DrKym]

10 Most Common Biters:
This list has some surprises. Allred says that in nature, dogs one through seven can be friendly, but they are intolerant and snap when handled roughly, startled, or pushed around. German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Pit Bulls are actually much less inclined to bite, but their powerful bites lead to great injuries and are reported more often.


Chow Chow
Shih Tzu
Lhaso Apso
Toy Terrier
Dachshund
Maltese
Cocker Spaniel
German Shepherd
Rottweiler
Pit Bull


10 Most Intelligent Breeds:


Border Collie
Poodle
German Shepherd
Doberman Pinscher
Golden Retriever
Shetland Sheepdog
Labrador Retriever
Papillion
Rottweiller
Australian Cattle Dog

[cocker_luva]

I have been bitten/attacked by SO many dogs the past couple of weeks, suddenly every dog wants to eat me. Now I get bitten nearly every day but I never classify them as attacks unless they draw blood or they are really scary, so this is ridiculous. So for those who think pitties are bad..

Last week a golden jumped on me with such a force that he pushed me off the drying bench. I was lucky I moved my head out of the way, he tried to bite me in the face. The day after a maltese tore up my hand. The day after a lab went after my face and actually got me. My chin was bruised for a couple of days and I had a puncture wound in my hand and one slice down my finger. A couple days ago a golden attacked my arm and my hand. My arm is still all bruised and I have two puncture wounds in my hand. I had to muzzle him the entire time I dired and groomed him because he kept going after me. Yesterday a lab went for my face (missed thank god, this thing is huge!), and a sheltie cocker mix got my hand.

But not one single pit bull, rottweiler, etc etc. In fact of all the large dogs I get bit or attacked by goldens most often.

I completely agree! i have the same problem at my groomin shop. I get attacked/bitten by more goldens and labs then any other dog. And people wonder why i dislike and wont even go near one unless i HAVE to!!!