Please Answer ASAP!

[rosethecopycat]

I rescue.
It is hard.
My heart gets broken. All the time.
My fosters sometime die.
I rescue anyway.

At best, I can save 15-20 cats a year.
You put 4 of them back.
I rescue anyway.


Please, no more uneccessary litters.
I rescue, until there are none left.
7 million to do.
A daunting task
I rescue anyway.



http://www.itsmeowornever.org/homeless.html

Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06

I bought her a brand new bed that was $32, I bought her 2 collars, and purple one with a bow, and a pink fuzzy one, she has numerous outfits she can wear

Sounds like Jolly is the cheerleader.

[PayItForward]

People are not posting to make this girl feel bad. We are posting information, in the hope that this poor cat will get the vet care which is needed.

It is easy to just post nice friendly posts but if people don't post the hard truth these cats could really suffer. The softly, softly approach does not help the mum cat and kittens in question. Pictures of cute kittens being posted doesn't address the need for vet care.

Her cat needs a vet check asap. All cats should be checked up after labour as standard. If her vet doesn't think this is necessary, he is a poor small animal vet and another vet should be seeked out. If money is no problem there is no excuse....this cat should see a vet today.

This mum cat should not be fed standard food by the way, she should be on kitten food. In fact she should of been eating kitten food whilst carrying her kittens.

Please buy good quality kitten food asap and make sure she has plenty, she needs to be free fed. This means leaving a bowl of food for her to eat at all times. Also give her fresh drinking water all the time.

Does this cat have a nesting box or where are her kittens ?

Are you weighing the kittens to check each is gaining weight every day ? Is there a runt ? Is mum feeding all the kittens ?

These kittens also need testing for Felv and Fiv (I am assuming this as you ignored my last set of questions) before adoption.

Also your cat will be able to get pregnant again within a few days...keep her inside until she is spayed. As money is no problem, please arrange for her to be done asap.

[carole]

Jenny with all due respect, I believe her cat and kittens are not in a risk situation at all, infact I think they are blessed compared with some poor kitties lives.

I also might add one can educate, inform, give an opinion in a friendly manner and still get the point across IMO.(which I believe you have done)

People are saying this poor cat, what is poor about her, she is well fed, loved and is getting vet care, she is living a better life than most kitties and some human beings infact.

I was also under the impression Jolly had been to the vet and was checked out, correct me if I am wrong.

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by carole
Jenny with all due respect, I believe her cat and kittens are not in a risk situation at all, infact I think they are blessed compared with some poor kitties lives.

This cat was delibrately bred by someone who has no knowledge about breeding and refuses to learn from others who know better than her, this is not a blessed situation.

I was also under the impression Jolly had been to the vet and was checked out, correct me if I am wrong.

Sadly you are wrong, the last vet based comment was
"if something is truly wrong with my cat, I will take it to the vet!"

So this cat has not had the essential post labour checkup.

[tvt]

Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06
ok, to the last post, if your gonna be rude, then im gonna be rude right back...okay?
1st...Yes it was a planned pregnancy, and for your information, yes I did read up on all of that stuff, I read what to feed her, how to take care of her, and guess what, all her babys came out fine!
2nd....All these cats already have homes, so stop telling me about how many cats dont have homes, these do!
3rd...Im sorry that no where I EVER read said anything about bleeding, THATS why I was worried, so get your panties out of a wad, and stop being rude! Theres no need for it! But trust me, I can be alot ruder! I didnt come on here to have people be rude and talk about how im not a good pet owner and how kittens dont have homes, I take GOOD care of this cat, and I could care less what anyone things, I feel good in my heart and I know im doing a good job! So..if your gonna be rude, please....just dont even reply, I dont have time to read your smart remarks!

**Jolly....The vets say she's fine, and thats its normal, and that she may leak for up to 2 weeks, and if she stops eating then to bring her in, shes in there right now with her 4 little beautiful babys purring like a motorboat!

I dont know how much more I will post b/c I am sick of these jerks being rude, and I have a attitude, and im really NOT wanting to show it, but if one more person crosses me the wrong way, I swear to my good lord above,.....It WONT be pretty! I am worried about my cat and dont need people making smart remarks 2 me!

You go, girl!!!
I'm having the same problem with kittycats_delight and a couple others.
I have learned the hard way- don't ask!!! Just read the 1000's of other posts and HOPE your question is covered. If not- don't ask!!! You WILL be reprimanded for SOMETHING you said even if they have to twist it to make you look bad.
I didn't realize kittycats_delight owned this website or I'd NEVER signed up.

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by tvt
I have learned the hard way- don't ask!!! Just read the 1000's of other posts and HOPE your question is covered. If not- don't ask!!! You WILL be reprimanded for SOMETHING you said even if they have to twist it to make you look bad.

This site is filled with knowledgable people.

Just think from a logical point of view :-

If the majority of cat lovers are trying to educate new members about the perils of back yard breeding or declawing, shouldn't you think carefully about the facts being presented ?

At the end of the day, we post out of concern for the cats in question, if we didn't care....we wouldn't post.

You might feel attacked as so many people oppose your current beliefs. However if you listen to the good points being made with an open mind, you will learn more about your cat(s) than you ever need to know.

The more you learn about breeding, rescue, declawing and behaviour, the more you'll understand why the majority of people hold the views they do.

[catmandu]

THE FOUND CATS,AND I ARE PRAYING,FOR THAT MOM CAT,AND KITTENS,AND PRAY,THAT THEY ARE AS WELL,AS POUNCETTE,AND HER LITTLE WONDERS.

PHOTOS,VERY SOON.

[Karen]

kittycats_delight does NOT own this website.

Paul and I do. Lock, stock and barrell. If anyone has a problem with a specific member, they can always contact me through a Private Message.

Everyone should remember to be polite, new members and old members alike. The one thing we are passionate about here is our love of animals. That expresses itself in disagreements, sometimes, which is unfortunate.

I am glad Jolly has seen the vet, and the vet has okayed her health.

We all wish only the best for her and her kittens. We are all glad they have homes already, and are glad you rescued Jolly in the first place.

Do not post angrily. A post written in anger rarely accomplishes anything but upsetting yourself and others. Any points you try to make get lost in the emotion. If you are angry, go play with your kitty for ten minutes before you post.

I thank those of you who have posted politely, even when trying to get your point across. That matters a lot.

ainslee_breann_sr06, I am going to send you a PM.

[PayItForward]

Karen,

The owner last post(s) say that she hadn't taken this cat to the vets.

Did she PM you and say different ?

I ask as I would feel a lot better, if I knew Jolly had seen a vet and got the all clear.

[Karen]

Originally posted by PayItForward
Karen,

The owner last post(s) say that she hadn't taken this cat to the vets.

Did she PM you and say different ?

I ask as I would feel a lot better, if I knew Jolly had seen a vet and got the all clear.

It's part of the 15th post down on the first page.

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by Karen
It's part of the 15th post down on the first page.

I know she posted that her dad was GOING TO take the cat in and then on page three she backtracked and said

"We have called the vet 3 or 4 times about Jolly and each time he said no dont bring her in, therefor I am going to take his advice!"

And that is why I said get a second opinion, as a good small animal vet will insist on a post labour visit, which this cat hasn't had yet

[ainslee_breann_sr06]

In order to get an appointment at the vet, u have to call right? I called, 2 vets, and both said shes fine until she stops eating, and if that happens bring her in! So why would I take my cat up there after they said shes fine? She's eating like a hog! And for your information, u have made another assumption, Jolly has been eating kitten food ever since she was bred...I posted that in a previous post! She has access to food anytime she wants...and water, I dont hold food back from my cats, they eat freely! Jolly will not get pregnant again, b/c she is our only inside cat, she never sees the outdoors, our other 3 cats practically stay outside, but Jolly dosent like outside, so she stays in! Jolly is very well taken care of! Stop telling me to take my cat to the vet, do u think I would just not take her if something was wrong? She is FINE! So stop stressing on that! Leave me alone if your gonna be rude, I appreciate u are trying to give you "helpful" comments, but ur doing so rudely, so dont give them 2 me? OK? Anyone who wants to be polite...I will be polite back! Now as for saying I am immature for getting defensive over my cat, say that! I am not one to sit here and let ANYONE run over me! I dont care who u are, u could be the President, but......your not gonna run over me and expect me to say nothing....sorry thats what u enjoy doing, but....not gonna happen here!

[PayItForward]

The kitten food comment was a fact not an assumption.
I'm pleased, she is being fed proper kitten food.

I am also pleased you intend on keeping her safely inside with you. However it is still good to get an inside cat spayed as there are health benefits to being altered and she'll not try to escape your home whilst in heat to look for a mate.

You mentioned you had home for these kittens, which is good.

If any of these homes fall though and you end up rehoming any of these kittens to strangers, please charge them an adoption fee to weed out the weridios and do a home check before letting the kitten go. These points don't apply if the kittens end up with family or friends.

If your local vets are happy not to see your cat, so be it. However it is not standard care, these vets aren't large animal vets by any chance ? (Which would explain the difference in attitude to a small animal vets)

[ainslee_breann_sr06]

yes, they are large, we called the largest one here, and in a town close to us! They do their job well to, so dont bad mouth them! We dont plan on giving our kittens to any unfit homes!

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06
I appreciate u are trying to give you "helpful" comments, but ur doing so rudely, so dont give them 2 me?

Unlike yourself, I am not rude in my posts. Direct ...Yes. Rude...No.
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Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06 yes, they are large, we called the largest one here, and in a town close to us! They do their job well to, so dont bad mouth them! We dont plan on giving our kittens to any unfit homes!

I think we have crossed wires in my last question. When I said small animal and large animal vets, I'm not referring to the size of the vet practice but to the type of animal seen as standard within the clinic.

A large animal vets, tends to see horses, cows, pigs etc usually on farms. Like my aunty's dairy farm. These vets have a more callous attitude to small animals, like cats and dogs.

A small animal vets, only see dogs and cats and other small animals and are well versed in small animals medicine.

If your vet opinions are from large animal vets only, I would strongly suggest one opinion from a small animal vet as they are the experts in cats & dogs.

If your vet opinions are from the small animal vets, just keep a very close eye on Jolly.