Why I Have Deleted Posts and Threads

[Randi]

I know exactly of what ES speaks. I have seen it on here for years now and it is usually the same cast of characters, so to speak.

Everyone is very quick to jump down ES throat about stuff. I stand in support of her and her post. She has been called names that have astounded me. I can't think of one single person that is attacked in the manner that she is.

Well said, Johanna! I certainly support her, too! It really is disappointing how some can get away with all these nasty comments to her, and she is not allowed to fight back or defend herself. Is that fair?

Some of us have known ES since 2002, and we know what she stands for. She is a funny, educated, catloving woman. She may not agree with the majority of Americans concerning politics, though, and that seems to be a big problem. Why let a few newcomers ruin the good atmosphere we had on PT!

[Husky_mom]

I so understand being one of the parties involved is more difficult ... but it´s not like someone got punched in the nose... and even then.. the involved eventually would either ignore each other.. or laugh it out later..

name calling.. no matter how bad it is.. I think we are adults here to not make a big deal out of it... "yeah whatever you called me $%%&.. bye" no need to feed it up.. never start a fight but always end it...at least that´s what I would do.. even if it were me who got name called...

I do not like this kind of situations.. but I do find it easier to let go than let it escalade on you.. not leaning to either side.. but I think both sides need to work things out.. ignore each other... or simply let go.. and yes, that´s easy.. IMO

[Husky_mom]

the difference between assault and fight.. is that it needs too..

yeah someone starts it.. but if someone else continues it.. then it´s never ending story..

everyone can defend themselves and it´s their right to.. and no one is getting away with it..

if someone gets overboard I´m sure the mods will reprimend that person..

so (going way out of topic.. but as example).. if you got robbed.. would it be good to rob back .. is it fair to kill someone´s relative because someone killed one of yours?.. don´t think so.. many would think of it as getting back at them.. would you?

i know this is words.. words.. don´t pay attentiion to them... yes, you can defend and fight back but why in the same way.. is it really worhty?..

[RICHARD]

Being a character, I have to comment.


Patti Ann Brown from Fox News really does it for me.

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Anyway, it's like watching Fonzie 'jump the shark', We all know that Henry Winkler is an actor and there is no way that that Happy Days espisode is going to end differently.

The Fonz lives, Pinky goes on to get put in jail, long after the show ends, and Mr Cunningham does some commercials now.

You can only watch that episode so many times before you want Fonzie to crash the Triumph into the side of the pool and end up as shark poop.


Yes, it is an old standard and a classic in TV history! I just would not buy or record that episode, there are plenty of other shows to watch.

Who knew ritchie would grow up bald.

[Barbara]

Well said, Johanna! I certainly support her, too! It really is disappointing how some can get away with all these nasty comments to her, and she is not allowed to fight back or defend herself. Is that fair?

Some of us have known ES since 2002, and we know what she stands for. She is a funny, educated, catloving woman. She may not agree with the majority of Americans concerning politics, though, and that seems to be a big problem. Why let a few newcomers ruin the good atmosphere we had on PT!

I second that. Only one exception- I know a lot of Americans who would agree with her concerning politics. The US for me is a nation which I admire for its history and its appreciation of independent thought.

[Karen]

No one is allowed to call each other names and get away with it. No one. I have scolded people via PM on both sides of the battle, asked that posts be edited, and done editing and deletion myself.

I never told anyone they could not defend him or herself. I have repeatedly reminded folks to treat each other with respect. I do not take sides with regards to politics or issues, I want everyone to be polite to each other.

Anyone who notices name-calling should PM me as soon as they notice it, as I cannot be reading every thread every minute.

Anyone who has been called a name should PM me, and tell me what thread it is in, before responding in kind.

This is Pet Talk. We have one thing in common - our love for pets. On everything we may disagree, but only if we can maintain our civility and respect for each other.

And agreeing to disagree on an issue is not "losing" - it is often the only resolution possible.

[Husky_mom]

No one is allowed to call each other names and get away with it. No one. I have scolded people via PM on both sides of the battle, asked that posts be edited, and done editing and deletion myself.

I never told anyone they could not defend him or herself. I have repeatedly reminded folks to treat each other with respect. I do not take sides with regards to politics or issues, I want everyone to be polite to each other.

Anyone who notices name-calling should PM me as soon as they notice it, as I cannot be reading every thread every minute.

Anyone who has been called a name should PM me, and tell me what thread it is in, before responding in kind.

This is Pet Talk. We have one thing in common - our love for pets. On everything we may disagree, but only if we can maintain our civility and respect for each other.

And agreeing to disagree on an issue is not "losing" - it is often the only resolution possible.

couldn´t have said it better...

[kokopup]

Nuf said

[lizbud]

I have waited a few days before responding to allow time to reflect on the OP, and the subsequent posts. This is what I think.

It is all too easy to sit back and say, "oh, let it go..", "be happy...", "can't we all just get along..." when the issue isn't one pertaining to you, personally. How many times have I vented something- be it on here or IRL, only to hear, "...just get over it..." and then laughed, inside, later, when that same person voices THEIR concern to me over something else. Funny how the import of something is directly related to ones own personal involvment in the situation.

I know exactly of what ES speaks. I have seen it on here for years now and it is usually the same cast of characters, so to speak. There is nearly a fear of some sort that prevents these runaway posters from being reined in. I don't get it.

Everyone is very quick to jump down ES throat about stuff. I stand in support of her and her post. She has been called names that have astounded me. I can't think of one single person that is attacked in the manner that she is. I have seen the posts/threads, and to say, "well, you give it out, so I guess you should take it" is just so wrong, as one can see in black and white the pattern of the conversation.

Frankly, 'who started it...' IS important. Any person lying on the pavement with a bloody nose would agree with me.

If we should ever meet in person, I owe you a big kiss on the lips.

I knew I wasn't crazy, or acting from a completely bias point of view. The
insults have been around for months now & it seems to me nobody took
it very seriously. Anger builds up after awhile. It seems like you have no other option than giving what you get.

[sasvermont]

I try to live by the rule "if you can't say anything nice, then say nothing at all", although I sometimes forget to control myself and yes, stoop to name calling and ill manners.

I was reared by to very strong parents. They taught me to respect other's opinions even if I did not agree. I have seen so many examples here, especially in the Dog House where it is quite evident to me, that the parties involved in the name calling and childish behavior are ill mannered at best. We need to make room for those folks with the ill manners and I suspect, accept the fact that much about them will not change, however hard we wish and try. And that they will not go away.

I do think Pet Talk has changed. The level of civility has dropped to an all time low. I can think of two people here who do not add to the forums but merely post to provoke and invite bad posts. They like to stir things up, for the fun of the fight. I have complained and complained, to no avail. See, I told you to just accept that they are here and it won't change.

All that said, the overall forum population, in my opinion, is a wonderful group of people with a very strong common bond - THE LOVE OF PETS.

I am going to keep posting and complaining. Maybe the ill mannered will move on to a different forum as some have done in the past. I am sure we all know a few former Pet Talk poster or three that drove us all to total distraction while they hung out here - and then one day, they left the forum. What a relief...... Fingers crossed again.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I said my piece and was staying out of things. Hoping they would settle down. Apparently not.

I’ve been told now my qualities as a person are being discussed. And I don’t like that.

Pomtzu – you say respect earns respect. After taking a trip earlier this year I posted a thread about the national parks we visited and how it made me appreciate what the government does. Of course, a poster made that into a fight. And you Pomtzu – accused me of posting simply to get a fight. I don’t remember your exact words. I do remember how nasty the post was and how much it stung. So I deleted the thread.

Was I being political? Absolutely. That is why I posted it in the Dog House. (Perhaps sad to think a post about the good things your country does is political!) I was also being very sincere.

Let’s remember a post about everyone should have a gun. Posted to get a rise out of people? Absolutely. But not one word from you about the intent of the poster. In fact, on the deer slaying thread you said you “knew the thread would turn ugly.” But in that case of course, not the fault of the OP.

Have I commented on people’s typos etc? Yes, guilty as charged. Am I the only one? Please.

Your righteous indignation seems to be selectively applied.

You don’t like me. That is your business. But please – do not hold yourself out as an example of correct behavior. As you said – if you want respect – you need to earn it.

[pomtzu]

ES - I never said I didn't like you. With that I have no more to say and will delete the post that you have taken offense to.

[carole]

This thread seems to be going around in circles, people accusing each other of this and that. i am not going to comment on ES as i do not know her or of the posts she speaks of.

Saying can we not all get along, is nice in theory but human beings are the way we are,we stand up for what we believe in, voice our opinions and that is what PT especially the doghouse is about isn't it? correct me if i am wrong here.

Of course i certainly do not condone name calling either, and it is sad that anyone needs to do that.

I think we all from time to time have had a disagreement with someone here that turned maybe a little nasty and got out of hand,but it is best to just try and put it behind you and move on, don't let it get to you so much and move on,by not doing so you only hurt yourself really and miss out on so much that is really good here.

Yes it is hard when hurtful things are said, and makes one's blood boil and leap to the defensive,but in general most people here are really nice,loving ,caring people who maybe just have a different opinion from ourselves,sometimes people voice it perhaps a little to boisterous and with unkind words, which is not necessary.

ES I hope you can forgive those that hurt your feelings and stay here with us,your contribution is alway's appreciated.

[blue]

After taking a trip earlier this year I posted a thread about the national parks we visited and how it made me appreciate what the government does.

Ild still like to see the rest of the pictures from that trip. I agreed that the National Park Service was good government spending.

Let’s remember a post about everyone should have a gun.

I was asked an honest question and I gave an honest, well thought out answer. It was not that everybody should own a firearm, but that every body should be trained to safely handle firearms.

[blue]

Yes.