Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.

So tell me about murder by table saw...I too read lots of OSHA logs and have't seen one yet!

But you know the big difference....a table saw - when used correctly, does not kill. A gun - when used correctly does.

[Lady's Human]

A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.

[Edwina's Secretary]

A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.

A gun deters violence - if it does so, by the threat to kill.

I don't go to the movies that often but I have yet to see the need to use a gun to get a box of popcorn.

Guns exist to kill. No other reason. You can try and whitewash it with target practice, detering violence, making holes in paper - doesn't change the fact a gun is designed to kill. That is all just - to use a term - strawman stuff.

Table saw, automobiles, knives...all have a purpose other than to kill. Or threaten death.

You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.

You know what really scares me???....George Zimmerman and the people who defend him. Wannabe who has a gun and decides he knows better than the police - stalks someone for having the termity to wear a hoodie in the rain and shots him. And claims "stand your ground." So now I have to worry that if I am wearing clothing that someone finds offensive that person they can shot me....for walking while wearing offensive clothing!

[Lady's Human]

You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.

When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well. However, vehicles are an item of convenience for everyone, so that discussion would lead to political suicide for those who brought up the issue.

Frankly, those shouldn't be traffic charges, they should be attempted negligent homicide, but the proposal would never fly.

Again, I could kill far more people with a little planning and never touch a firearm...........and never doing anything illegal until the point of committing the crime, but you'd rather sensationalize crime and have bloody headlines to carp about than deal with reality.

[RICHARD]

When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well.

You mean like THIS?

[Karen]

You mean like THIS?

No, he means while driving! It happens on a frighteningly regular basis on certain roadways around here!

I will never forget the restraint my older brother showed one time when he drove into Boston to pick me up so I could go home for the weekend. We on Route 9, in traffic and on a hill, and the woman in front of us decided that because the light was red, that would be a good time to apply her makeup, with both hands. She just forgot to keep her foot on the brake, so her car started rolling back toward is. It was probably millimeters from his bumper when she finally came to and reapplied the brake, and that was after he backed up as much as he could without hitting the car behind us!

[Edwina's Secretary]

When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well. However, vehicles are an item of convenience for everyone, so that discussion would lead to political suicide for those who brought up the issue.

Frankly, those shouldn't be traffic charges, they should be attempted negligent homicide, but the proposal would never fly.

Again, I could kill far more people with a little planning and never touch a firearm...........and never doing anything illegal until the point of committing the crime, but you'd rather sensationalize crime and have bloody headlines to carp about than deal with reality.

You "miss" a big difference between my car and a gun. I cannot hide my car in a purse or pocket. I cannot fold it up and put it in an innocent looking gym bag while I stroll through the shopping mall looking for the "best" place to cause maximum damage.

I do not want to sensationalize crime...what an odd thing to say. It is. It sensationalizes itself. Dead is dead. And that is the reality we all have to deal with. Do you think gun deaths should be censored so we don't have to hear about them?

Maybe you are a demolition wizard - but that doesn't make that pesky reality any less real. You don't need training - you don't need smarts - you just need lots of hate and then you just buy (or steal) a gun...or two or three.

[Lady's Human]

You don't need training or intelligence to drive a semi through a shopping mall, nor do you need to be a demolitions expert.

Do you think all deaths should be given the same sensationalized coverage as shootings? Every stabbing, DUI, accident, suicide, ad nauseum leading the news constantly for days? After all, dead is dead, the process doesn't matter, just the untimely demise. Someone jumping on PT every second of every day beating their chest and denouncing how XYZ was killed? I think the mayor would need more server space.....

[RICHARD]

When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence

http://www.wlky.com/news/local-news/...?absolute=true


So what do you do when the guy has a car and a gun?

[lizbud]

Guide To Mass Shootings In U S.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map