Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

So...why the fear?

And for those of us on the other side of the debate, the question is exatly that: Why the fear?

A firearm is an inanimate object. I fear a firearm no more than I fear a tablesaw.

[Edwina's Secretary]

And for those of us on the other side of the debate, the question is exatly that: Why the fear?

A firearm is an inanimate object. I fear a firearm no more than I fear a tablesaw.

So how many people do you know...or have you EVER heard of who were killed by a tablesaw???

Sita Singh, 41, Ranjit Singh, 49, the temple's President Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65, Prakash Singh, 39, Suveg Singh, 84 and Paramjit Kaur, 41

[Lady's Human]

Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.

So tell me about murder by table saw...I too read lots of OSHA logs and have't seen one yet!

But you know the big difference....a table saw - when used correctly, does not kill. A gun - when used correctly does.

[Lady's Human]

A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.

[Edwina's Secretary]

A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.

A gun deters violence - if it does so, by the threat to kill.

I don't go to the movies that often but I have yet to see the need to use a gun to get a box of popcorn.

Guns exist to kill. No other reason. You can try and whitewash it with target practice, detering violence, making holes in paper - doesn't change the fact a gun is designed to kill. That is all just - to use a term - strawman stuff.

Table saw, automobiles, knives...all have a purpose other than to kill. Or threaten death.

You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.

You know what really scares me???....George Zimmerman and the people who defend him. Wannabe who has a gun and decides he knows better than the police - stalks someone for having the termity to wear a hoodie in the rain and shots him. And claims "stand your ground." So now I have to worry that if I am wearing clothing that someone finds offensive that person they can shot me....for walking while wearing offensive clothing!

[Lady's Human]

You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.

When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well. However, vehicles are an item of convenience for everyone, so that discussion would lead to political suicide for those who brought up the issue.

Frankly, those shouldn't be traffic charges, they should be attempted negligent homicide, but the proposal would never fly.

Again, I could kill far more people with a little planning and never touch a firearm...........and never doing anything illegal until the point of committing the crime, but you'd rather sensationalize crime and have bloody headlines to carp about than deal with reality.

[RICHARD]

And for those of us on the other side of the debate, the question is exatly that: Why the fear?

A firearm is an inanimate object. I fear a firearm no more than I fear a tablesaw.

This table saw is portable, so it would be able to chase you down.

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Go hang out in a trauma ER for a weekend and see all the crap people use to promote mayhem onto each other.

A gun is a rather impersonal way to show your displeasure at another human being.

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Check out what a broken bottle will do to skin.

Check out the xray of a fractured skull. A baseball bat, tire iron or in a pinch? A brick will do nicely.

A stick or 2x4 makes a nice club.

Iron skillets can be wielded with no problem, or the hot fat/oil won't break a bone - but how's about a visit to the burn ward or a few dozen skin grafts.

Look about the room you are in and use a little imagination. You can pretty much beat the crap out of anyone with what's at hand.

Me?

I prefer not to let anyone get really close to me.

I don't like to be touched.

[Lady's Human]

I don't like to be touched.

Don't lie, we all know you're touched!

[RICHARD]

Don't lie, we all know you're touched!

That's a different kinda 'contact' - stay on topic?

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I do have a healthy respect, that borders on fear, of any electrical tool.

It makes me pay attention to detail.

[RICHARD]

I just saw a clip of a TV show where one of the characters is sitting in a bar, reading the comics.

She states that she is just looking at Charlie Brown falling down after Lucy pulls the football away when he tries to kick it.

"If Charlie Brown was packing, no one would mess with him."

Probably not.

[catlady1945]

I see y'all had another shooting today, in the U.S. of A.

[RICHARD]

I see y'all had another shooting today, in the U.S. of A.

Yes, we don't get the CBC down here, so we don't know what's going on all over the continent.