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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    And for those of us on the other side of the debate, the question is exatly that: Why the fear?

    A firearm is an inanimate object. I fear a firearm no more than I fear a tablesaw.
    So how many people do you know...or have you EVER heard of who were killed by a tablesaw???

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    Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Many maimed, some killed. I read OSHA logs routinely.
    So tell me about murder by table saw...I too read lots of OSHA logs and have't seen one yet!

    But you know the big difference....a table saw - when used correctly, does not kill. A gun - when used correctly does.

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    A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

    A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

    It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

    People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

    As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    A gun when used correctly doesn't kill.

    A gun can be used to deter violence, put food on the table, punch holes in paper, there are many uses for them.

    It very simply comes down to differing views of individual freedoms and rights. People who are for gun control and banning them will just never understand those of us who oppose those measures, and vice versa.

    People will use many, many things to kill, a firearm just makes more headlines when it happens. More people are killed during their morning commute by accidents, yet no one wants to ban automobiles.

    As to the licensing issue, license requirements vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and mental illness CANNOT be considered for legal reasons.
    A gun deters violence - if it does so, by the threat to kill.

    I don't go to the movies that often but I have yet to see the need to use a gun to get a box of popcorn.

    Guns exist to kill. No other reason. You can try and whitewash it with target practice, detering violence, making holes in paper - doesn't change the fact a gun is designed to kill. That is all just - to use a term - strawman stuff.

    Table saw, automobiles, knives...all have a purpose other than to kill. Or threaten death.

    You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

    But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.

    You know what really scares me???....George Zimmerman and the people who defend him. Wannabe who has a gun and decides he knows better than the police - stalks someone for having the termity to wear a hoodie in the rain and shots him. And claims "stand your ground." So now I have to worry that if I am wearing clothing that someone finds offensive that person they can shot me....for walking while wearing offensive clothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    You want a gun in your house - that is your problem...you want to hunt wild animals...okay.

    But when you bring your gun into my space - the movie theater, grade school, bar, shopping mall, Texas A&M....I have a problem.
    When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well. However, vehicles are an item of convenience for everyone, so that discussion would lead to political suicide for those who brought up the issue.

    Frankly, those shouldn't be traffic charges, they should be attempted negligent homicide, but the proposal would never fly.

    Again, I could kill far more people with a little planning and never touch a firearm...........and never doing anything illegal until the point of committing the crime, but you'd rather sensationalize crime and have bloody headlines to carp about than deal with reality.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence (applying eyeshadow, lipstick, reading the newspaper, talking on the cell phone while leaning over to change the radio station, combing hair) I have an issue with it as well. However, vehicles are an item of convenience for everyone, so that discussion would lead to political suicide for those who brought up the issue.

    Frankly, those shouldn't be traffic charges, they should be attempted negligent homicide, but the proposal would never fly.

    Again, I could kill far more people with a little planning and never touch a firearm...........and never doing anything illegal until the point of committing the crime, but you'd rather sensationalize crime and have bloody headlines to carp about than deal with reality.
    You "miss" a big difference between my car and a gun. I cannot hide my car in a purse or pocket. I cannot fold it up and put it in an innocent looking gym bag while I stroll through the shopping mall looking for the "best" place to cause maximum damage.

    I do not want to sensationalize crime...what an odd thing to say. It is. It sensationalizes itself. Dead is dead. And that is the reality we all have to deal with. Do you think gun deaths should be censored so we don't have to hear about them?

    Maybe you are a demolition wizard - but that doesn't make that pesky reality any less real. You don't need training - you don't need smarts - you just need lots of hate and then you just buy (or steal) a gun...or two or three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    When you bring a 4500 lb vehicle into my space with intent to kill through negligence
    http://www.wlky.com/news/local-news/...?absolute=true


    So what do you do when the guy has a car and a gun?

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