McDonald's Baltimore beating

[IRescue452]

Ok, time to lock this thread me thinks. The facts will be revealed in court soon enough and we'll see if there's justice for a brutal beating of a human being regardless of their gender. Clearly it can't be looked at in a civil manner anymore in this forum.

[wombat2u2004]

Ok, time to lock this thread me thinks. The facts will be revealed in court soon enough and we'll see if there's justice for a brutal beating of a human being regardless of their gender. Clearly it can't be looked at in a civil manner anymore in this forum.

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Nobody is arguing.
All the posts I've read so far are ok, and we do all have our own opinions.

[Medusa]

In regards to the "bystander effect", when I was a teenager, my girlfriend and I were walking in a different neighborhood at night, intending to visit my sister. Out of nowhere, two girls came up to us and I think they asked us a question but I honestly can't remember clearly. What I do remember is that they started beating on my girlfriend. Why they didn't pick on me, I have no idea. What did I do? I froze. Like a deer in headlights, I froze. It lasted only a few seconds and the girls ran off. My girlfriend said "Why didn't you help me???" and I had no answer for her. Somehow it was as though it was a movie or something that I was viewing but wasn't a part of. Of course, this is all hindsight now. The good that came out of it was that it made me more aware of my surroundings and I vowed that I would never stand by and watch something like that happen again. I can only hope that I don't freeze up again should another scene like that unfold.

[Bonny]

The next question is who is going to sue who? Will Mc Donalds be held liable for not doing anything to help the victim? Will the two women have to pay out for the mental & bodily harm they caused? Is the victim really a victim? Maybe there is more that went on in that bathroom that no one knows about & it will be here say from all parties involved.

[Pinot's Mom]

As the resident "local" in this case, I'm going to pop back in here - quickly.

Fact one is this 14 year old has been accused of this same action in this same place more than once.

Fact two is it matters not whether the victim was transgender, gay, straight, black, white, male, female, fat, thin or purple.

Fact three is there is no excuse for this action. Period.

Fact four: that kid needs serious treatment.

I'm done, except to add this - East Baltimore is a very odd place. I don't go there.

[wombat2u2004]

In regards to the "bystander effect", when I was a teenager, my girlfriend and I were walking in a different neighborhood at night, intending to visit my sister. Out of nowhere, two girls came up to us and I think they asked us a question but I honestly can't remember clearly. What I do remember is that they started beating on my girlfriend. Why they didn't pick on me, I have no idea. What did I do? I froze. Like a deer in headlights, I froze. It lasted only a few seconds and the girls ran off. My girlfriend said "Why didn't you help me???" and I had no answer for her. Somehow it was as though it was a movie or something that I was viewing but wasn't a part of. Of course, this is all hindsight now. The good that came out of it was that it made me more aware of my surroundings and I vowed that I would never stand by and watch something like that happen again. I can only hope that I don't freeze up again should another scene like that unfold.

Fight...Flight...Freeze Response
The response or reaction of an animal to a situation perceived as a threat to its survival, which involves physiological changes in the animal body through the action of the sympathetic nervous system, priming the animal to deal with danger by staying, fighting or running away.

This concept was first described by Walter Cannon in his theory called Cannon's theory in 1929. Based on his theory, in the presence of a threatening stimulus, a part of the brain regulates the metabolic and autonomic functions to prepare the muscles for any subsequent violent action, i.e. to either run away or fight. Example of an autonomic reaction is the increased release of adrenaline in the body and some of the physical manifestations include increased blood pressure and heart rate (as a result of higher concentrations of adrenaline in the body).

[IRescue452]

To add another fact to this topic for people who haven't watched the video:

I do not believe the victim went into the bathroom. She was assaulted at the outside of the girl's bathroom door when trying to walk in. At least it looked to me in the beginning to the video like she was going to walk into the bathroom, not coming out of it. I don't think anything went on behind the scenes inside the bathroom because she wasn't in there yet.

[wombat2u2004]

To add another fact to this topic for people who haven't watched the video:

I do not believe the victim went into the bathroom. She was assaulted at the outside of the girl's bathroom door when trying to walk in. At least it looked to me in the beginning to the video like she was going to walk into the bathroom, not coming out of it. I don't think anything went on behind the scenes inside the bathroom because she wasn't in there yet.

Yes, I thought that to when I watched the vid, it all happened on the outside. But didn't the news article say she had been in the bathroom, and that is where the altercation started ??? Maybe the media got it wrong, wouldn't be the first time.