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    If s/he was transgender, then s/he wasn't male anymore. And if s/he was living as female and still had male parts, I'm sure s/he wasn't in the washroom flashing them about. The whole idea is to live as a woman. This isn't about sex and sexuality, it's about gender and identity, which no one should be judge on OR beaten for.

    From reading the other posts (Medusa's esp.) it wouldn't have taken much for the girly-thugs to come up with some sort of excuse to beat anyone who had walked into that restroom. They just hit the jackpot here because there are some folks who will justify what they did because of lack of tolerance. That hurts my heart.

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    I just watched the video. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Filming this poor person, no one helping. This was a disgrace. I'm ashamed to be part of the human race.

    I better not see ANYONE on this website justify this beating for ANY reason!!! Abomination and sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catherinedana View Post
    I just watched the video. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Filming this poor person, no one helping. This was a disgrace. I'm ashamed to be part of the human race.

    I better not see ANYONE on this website justify this beating for ANY reason!!! Abomination and sickening.
    What do you mean "no one helping"? I saw several people step in and get the girls off of her numerous times. I don't know what more they could have done (other than start beating the crap out of the girls, then they would be as bad as those little punks). And we don't know who (or when) anyone called 911. Sure the guy filming the video was a jerk..but there were lots of people there. Several that did step in and several more that could (and must have) called 911. The only people to blame in this incident are those two girls.

    What would you have done if you were there? I know I would have called 911 if someone else hadn't already. Otherwise, I wouldn't have tried to step in for fear of them turning around and punching or kicking me.
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    She was sitting there holding herself after the girls backed off each time. . .sitting there ALONE!! Me, I would have been there with her. So would my husband, my family members, the members of my church and friends. She would NOT have been sitting there on the floor alone to wait for the girls to come back or whatever help was "supposed" to be coming. I've been is a situation like this, although not as horrible. Myself and another person took care of the person who had been hit while others blocked the man who hit her so he couldn't get her again.

    THAT'S what I mean by HELPING!!

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    I'm not defending any of the onlookers or attackers because this WAS a brutal assault. However, I need to hear a comment about gender to believe this attack was motivated by hate crime. In one news report they said the boyfriend hit on the victim. Obviously he must have thought she was a she. Did anybody in the restaurant know she was transgendered? That's what I want to find out because if not, this was not a hate crime based on gender.

    It could have been a race hate crime though. Black trash thinks how dare this white trash talk to my man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catherinedana View Post
    THAT'S what I mean by HELPING!!
    Ok, just asking a question. No need to get upset. This is why I usually don't even post in threads that are in the Dog House. I should have not broken that trend.
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    I recently learned in my AP Psych course of something called the "Bystander effect" where people pass up something like this because they assume that someone else will step in, it isn't their business, etc. They did several experiments, one where a girl was screaming that she was being kidnapped (it was fake, obviously) everytime someone passed by and it took hours for people to finally intervene. It really was terrible.

    Would I have video-taped it? Of course not. Would I have intervened had I been there? I can't really say. I don't want to say I would have because I simply don't know. Of course it is a horrific act, and but I try not to say what I'd do, since I was never in the situation.

    I don't think it's a matter of what restroom this person used, because frankly, I think it happened just because said victim was a transgender. I don't care what bathroom he/she was in, it doesn't justify what happened by any means.

    Although, Wom, I totally see where you are coming from. Perhaps we will never know...but I feel as that if he really was flashing them, being inappropriate, etc we would know this by now. It STILL doesn't justify the beating when they could have simply come out of the restroom and told the manager. The cops would have come and arrested him..simple as that. There was no need for the way they acted. I know you don't condone it, I'm just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alysser View Post
    I recently learned in my AP Psych course of something called the "Bystander effect".
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Also known as Liberalism.
    This is completely wrong. Remember, I live in that bastion of Liberalism, Massachusetts, and I know many Liberals who would step in. I also know Conservatives who wouldn't. One's political beliefs have little bearing on this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    This is completely wrong.
    No, it isnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Also known as Liberalism.
    Major BS statement. I'm the most Liberal person you will ever meet and I would never just stand by and let something like this happen or not step in where I was needed.

    Generalizations like that are ridiculous.

    I'm thinking that I should have stuck to the Pet part of this website like I usually do. I apparently don't play well with others.

    Bye bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catherinedana View Post
    Major BS statement. I'm the most Liberal person you will ever meet and I would never just stand by and let something like this happen or not step in where I was needed.

    Generalizations like that are ridiculous.

    I'm thinking that I should have stuck to the Pet part of this website like I usually do. I apparently don't play well with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Also known as Liberalism.
    What on earth has this matter to do with politics blue ???
    You need to take that red/white/blue hat off old mate.


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    Since when is it ever okay to beat up someone inside McDonald's?? What is happening nowadays?
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    I also watched the video (but without sound). I don't care what gender, color or sexual preference the person was.....they did not deserve to be beaten like this person was. There were employees (a manager and a regular employee) that broke it up several times. Then the customer that got involved...the victim grabbed on to her leg for help. That is so sad. Then the victim begins convulsing, after being dragged (by her hair) from the bathroom to the door at the front of the place.

    I hope this video helps them identify those girls and they are punished. I didn't read if they did arrest the girls or not.
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