No Candace i don't know of anyone with one, but i will look in to it, at the moment there is no way i could even attempt to do anything to her mouth, it would be beyond being cruel, she just is not a happy girl today, and i am gravely concerned,it looks all too familar,what i went through with Ash, having said that, he often did a turn around when i least expected it, and Ellie has been bad before, perhaps just not this bad, i am hoping maybe it is that she is just a little more unwell due to her flu vaccination, i do know her mouth is awful though, she did eat a little of the new food, but not much, she is enjoying basking in the sun, so i think she must be feeling cold, it is a hot summers day here down under.

Thanks for the continuing support for me, prayers for Ellie, we sure need em, my girl will do a turn around i am sure of it.