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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    And you care why?

    With the amount of shenanigans that has gone on with this election the lawsuit should move on to a higher court. Yes it looks like Lisa won, but it should be won fairly. We are supposed to have free and fair elections, and what Lisa pulled was not free or fair. If it stands as it is we will never have another free or fair election in this state.

    I'll ask liz another question, is this how you want elections run?

    I care because I am a citizen of the USA, but I only know what I've read
    about this election of Alaska's Senator. I heard Miller had a lot of complaints
    that some voters misspelled Lisa M.'s last name. Big deal.

    As you are right were the action was, why don't you fill me in on what
    you know happened. I'm serious, what shenanigans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I care because I am a citizen of the USA, but I only know what I've read
    about this election of Alaska's Senator.
    So you are sticking your nose in business that doesn't concern you? What should bother you is the improprieties that have happened here could happen there and that should bother you. Im guessing it doesn't bother you because Miller is a conservative and Lisa is now beholden to private interests that reflect your ideology.

    I heard Miller had a lot of complaints
    that some voters misspelled Lisa M.'s last name. Big deal.
    The big deal is that if the name is misspelled the vote is invalid. That is the way the law is written, and that was the intent of the law by those who wrote and enacted it.

    As you are right where the action is, why don't you fill me in on what
    you know happened. I'm serious, what shenanigans?
    The law was broken during the counting of write in ballots, what more do you need? [ETA]To answer my own question, you need a whole lot more because you dont see breaking the law as a "Big Deal".[/ETA] There are also allegations of electioneering and voter fraud that need to be investigated to there conclusions.

    Im comfortable that Lisa Murkowski won the election. It just needs to be done and certified legally and as it sits now it wont be and Im not comfortable with that.
    Last edited by blue; 12-11-2010 at 06:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    So you are sticking your nose in business that doesn't concern you?

    I was so hoping for a honest, dispassionate dialogue here. Oh well, I tried.
    Maybe another time, Good night Blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I was so hoping for a honest, dispassionate dialogue here. Oh well, I tried.
    Maybe another time, Good night Blue.
    I answered your questions and you get butthurt, exactly what I expected from you. TTFNA.
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    It takes forethought and serious intent to elect a United States Senator with a write in vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    It takes forethought and serious intent to elect a United States Senator with a write in vote.
    Which is why the law was written the way it was. To make it difficult to run a write in campaign. That is the law Joe Miller is trying to have enforced. The same law Lisa Murkowski is trying to circumvent to retain Alaska's seat as our senator. By "our" I obviously mean Alaskans and not you, me, and Liz.

    Thank you for seeing that what Lisa Murkowski and the left wing hit machine is trying to do is illegal.

    I will say again that Lisa Murkowski won the election, but it needs to be certified according to the local election laws. Not by what the left is trying to do, if they succeed we will never have another free and fair election in this state and that should concern all of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    Thank you for seeing that what Lisa Murkowski and the left wing hit machine is trying to do is illegal.
    That is not what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The big deal is that if the name is misspelled the vote is invalid. That is the way the law is written, and that was the intent of the law by those who wrote and enacted it.
    The law was broken during the counting of write in ballots, what more do you need?
    Im comfortable that Lisa Murkowski won the election. It just needs to be done and certified legally and as it sits now it wont be and Im not comfortable with that.
    I'm a little confuzzed here blue.
    I read the article that Liz posted, and it clearly states that the judge relied on Caselaw in regards to misspelled names on write in votes.
    One can assume that precedent has now varied a probably outdated State Law.
    Part The Article..........
    "Miller's attorneys had asked Carey to strictly enforce a state law calling for write-in ballots to have the oval filled in, and either the candidate's last name or the name as it appears on the declaration of candidacy written in.

    Miller argued the state shouldn't have used discretion in determining voter intent when tallying ballots for Murkowski. The state relied on case law in doing so and allowed for ballots with misspellings to be counted toward Murkowski's total."


    So what is illegal about that ????
    INTENT should be taken into account, not spelling errors.
    Good God !!!! Everyone is entitled to vote for who they want, whether they can write properly or not. Thank goodness someone has woken up to this in the past, and a bit of judicial activism has overturned an obviously very stoopid law.
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