Politics and religion.

[Puckstop31]

Awwwww....that's ok Pucky. I do read your posts for a laugh sometimes.
Not very often tho, as I do find everyone else I know to be more interesting than you.
So tell me, if you are so successful with team management blah blah blah, then why do you whinge all of the time ???

Why can't "progressives" ever answer a question?


Anyway, its not 'whining'. I do find it interesting that when YOU complain about the 'rich' getting richer, its not whining. But when I talk about wanting to preserve the ability to keep as much of what I EARN (and thus distribute it as I see fit.... It is MY money afterall.) I am 'whining'?


Bury your head in the socialist nirvana idea all you want. History is on Liberty's side. Its NOT selfish for an individual to keep what they earn. Because then that individual spends it and thus other individuals benefit. Or, we can try it your way. Never let anyone fail. Print all the 'money' we need to ensure that everybody 'has a chance'. Then, the bills come due and no one wants your fake money any more.

Like I said before.... I believe in the power of individual liberty. The freedom of the individual to chase their happiness. You seem to value the 'liberty' of the collective. Which is not really liberty at all.... Especially when what you want is not congruent with the current 'group think'.

[lizbud]

Maybe now he'll accept the fact that he lost the election. It's over Joe,
go home.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=12370922

[blue]

Maybe now he'll accept the fact that he lost the election. It's over Joe,
go home.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=12370922

And you care why?

With the amount of shenanigans that has gone on with this election the lawsuit should move on to a higher court. Yes it looks like Lisa won, but it should be won fairly. We are supposed to have free and fair elections, and what Lisa pulled was not free or fair. If it stands as it is we will never have another free or fair election in this state.

I'll ask liz another question, is this how you want elections run?

[lizbud]

And you care why?

With the amount of shenanigans that has gone on with this election the lawsuit should move on to a higher court. Yes it looks like Lisa won, but it should be won fairly. We are supposed to have free and fair elections, and what Lisa pulled was not free or fair. If it stands as it is we will never have another free or fair election in this state.

I'll ask liz another question, is this how you want elections run?

I care because I am a citizen of the USA, but I only know what I've read
about this election of Alaska's Senator. I heard Miller had a lot of complaints
that some voters misspelled Lisa M.'s last name. Big deal.

As you are right were the action was, why don't you fill me in on what
you know happened. I'm serious, what shenanigans?

[blue]

I care because I am a citizen of the USA, but I only know what I've read
about this election of Alaska's Senator.

So you are sticking your nose in business that doesn't concern you? What should bother you is the improprieties that have happened here could happen there and that should bother you. Im guessing it doesn't bother you because Miller is a conservative and Lisa is now beholden to private interests that reflect your ideology.

I heard Miller had a lot of complaints
that some voters misspelled Lisa M.'s last name. Big deal.

The big deal is that if the name is misspelled the vote is invalid. That is the way the law is written, and that was the intent of the law by those who wrote and enacted it.

As you are right where the action is, why don't you fill me in on what
you know happened. I'm serious, what shenanigans?

The law was broken during the counting of write in ballots, what more do you need? [ETA]To answer my own question, you need a whole lot more because you dont see breaking the law as a "Big Deal".[/ETA] There are also allegations of electioneering and voter fraud that need to be investigated to there conclusions.

Im comfortable that Lisa Murkowski won the election. It just needs to be done and certified legally and as it sits now it wont be and Im not comfortable with that.

[lizbud]

So you are sticking your nose in business that doesn't concern you?

I was so hoping for a honest, dispassionate dialogue here. Oh well, I tried.
Maybe another time, Good night Blue.

[blue]

I was so hoping for a honest, dispassionate dialogue here. Oh well, I tried.
Maybe another time, Good night Blue.

I answered your questions and you get butthurt, exactly what I expected from you. TTFNA.

[wombat2u2004]

The big deal is that if the name is misspelled the vote is invalid. That is the way the law is written, and that was the intent of the law by those who wrote and enacted it.
The law was broken during the counting of write in ballots, what more do you need?
Im comfortable that Lisa Murkowski won the election. It just needs to be done and certified legally and as it sits now it wont be and Im not comfortable with that.

I'm a little confuzzed here blue.
I read the article that Liz posted, and it clearly states that the judge relied on Caselaw in regards to misspelled names on write in votes.
One can assume that precedent has now varied a probably outdated State Law.
Part The Article..........
"Miller's attorneys had asked Carey to strictly enforce a state law calling for write-in ballots to have the oval filled in, and either the candidate's last name or the name as it appears on the declaration of candidacy written in.

Miller argued the state shouldn't have used discretion in determining voter intent when tallying ballots for Murkowski. The state relied on case law in doing so and allowed for ballots with misspellings to be counted toward Murkowski's total."

So what is illegal about that ????
INTENT should be taken into account, not spelling errors.
Good God !!!! Everyone is entitled to vote for who they want, whether they can write properly or not. Thank goodness someone has woken up to this in the past, and a bit of judicial activism has overturned an obviously very stoopid law.

[wombat2u2004]

It is MY money afterall.

No it ain't, what is left after paying your dues to society is yours. And not a penny more.
Live with it old fella, because all of your whinging and whining ain't gonna make any difference.
You will pay your share, whether you like it or not, just like everyone else does.

[Puckstop31]

No it ain't, what is left after paying your dues to society is yours. And not a penny more.
Live with it old fella, because all of your whinging and whining ain't gonna make any difference.
You will pay your share, whether you like it or not, just like everyone else does.

WOW.

Show of hands class.... Who agrees?

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But, I DO pay my taxes Wom. A LOT of them. How much is, exactly, my "dues to society"?

And the threat... LOL. ROFL. I am SOOOOOO glad that is your idea of "freedom".

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We could get into WHY I don't like how my government spends some of the money they take from us, but somehow I don't think ole' Wom is up for any kind of honest discussion. Lest he send the armed goons to my house.



Best of luck for a long and healthy life Wom.

[wombat2u2004]

WOW.

Show of hands class.... Who agrees?

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But, I DO pay my taxes Wom. A LOT of them. How much is, exactly, my "dues to society"?

And the threat... LOL. ROFL. I am SOOOOOO glad that is your idea of "freedom".

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We could get into WHY I don't like how my government spends some of the money they take from us, but somehow I don't think ole' Wom is up for any kind of honest discussion. Lest he send the armed goons to my house.



Best of luck for a long and healthy life Wom.

Ahhhhh....I'm so glad things go my way and not yours.
Yuppers.....best of luck with your efforts to change the world Pucky.

[Puckstop31]

Ahhhhh....I'm so glad things go my way and not yours.

LOL. A certain famous Austrian and you would be great mates.

Yuppers.....best of luck with your efforts to change the world Pucky.

Just make a note that you never even made a effort to talk about the substance here. All you ever give is your authortarian garbage. "My way OR ELSE." Seig Heil!

[caseysmom]

LOL. A certain famous Austrian and you would be great mates.







Just make a note that you never even made a effort to talk about the substance here. All you ever give is your authortarian garbage. "My way OR ELSE." Seig Heil!

Don't waste your time on it Brian...go spend your time with that precious little girl. Some of us figured this out long ago!

[Puckstop31]

Don't waste your time on it Brian...go spend your time with that precious little girl. Some of us figured this out long ago!

I am. We are in Florida right now visting my parents. Its actually because of this vacation I even have the time to play here. LOL

Look for a big pic dump soon.

[wombat2u2004]

Some of us figured this out long ago!

Yep, the whole 4 of you.