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    Actually I did ask my daughter, you see we had this converstation years ago and then agin last night. I was interested if her opinion had changed and it hadn't.
    She said "don't worry mom I will wait a while before they disconnect you.
    We both laughted and hugged.
    If she was as this women is. Yes I would put her in a nursing home so she could get 24 hour care. I don't expect you to understand , but you don't need to.
    This is just how our family feels. It doens't have to be how you feel. I think everyone has degrees of how long we would wait for someone to get better. You have to just feel it in your heart and know it is right.
    I don't want my kids to have to put their life on hold for me. It's that simple.
    Doesn't make me a bad mom or bad person.
    How long would I wait for my daughter, well if the Dr said there is no hope, no brain activity, no change of her getting better, no change of a somewhat normal life or a chance to enjoy said life then I would not let her suffer this way. I find that horrible. Just lying there and blinking that to me is worst then death, it is a constent suffering if she is even capable of understanding that. We don't know is she really does mean anything by the blinking.
    You see I had to let my mom go, been through this. I know what it is to look into the eyes of the person who loves you more then anyone on this earth and to know you will lose them. It was best for her. Her neck was broken, they feared her brain was damaged to the point where she would not reconize her children. I just could not do that to her. To be possibley paralazed and not know the people who loved you most, no I could not do that to the most wonderful person I ever knew. She is with God, whole, healthy and my angel now. I did what I thought was best for her. I knew she would not want to live like that. She told me so herself. As I have told my kids.
    I was not trying to get around the issue, I was trying to explain it in a way that could make sense, but sometims that is just not possible. Different people, different choices all trying to do what they feel is best that is the bottom line.
    And quite frankly name calling is serving what purpose, do you get some kind of joy calling me a selfish person? I have not called you any names. My opinion is different then yours, so what, I have not been mean to you, how about looking at yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    How long would I wait for my daughter, well if the Dr said there is no hope, no brain activity, no change of her getting better, no change of a somewhat normal life or a chance to enjoy said life then I would not let her suffer this way.
    Again - having no bran activity, and having brain damage, is 2 different things. You don't pull the plug if there is any brain activity, even tho she will have less than a "normal" life.
    So you're saying that she would be off to the nursing home so that she is out of your way and not a burden to you, and you could go on your merry way and live life to the fullest???
    And specifically what do you mean by "I would not let her suffer this way" if she is not bran dead, what would you do about it? Again - you can't pull the plug just because she is no longer "normal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    And quite frankly name calling is serving what purpose, do you get some kind of joy calling me a selfish person? I have not called you any names. My opinion is different then yours, so what, I have not been mean to you, how about looking at yourself?
    Look in the mirror.

    How many people and groups have you called names?

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    Well it would depend on her outlook, what the Dr's say, if she is capable of pain, joy, love? Can she see, hear, think, feel does she even know she is alive?
    So many questions, so many choices. I would do what I thought was best I have said that all along. You might not agree with the choice I make but it is my soul and heart I have to live with.
    I don't think a life of blinking is enough for me or those I love. There has to be more and if there isn't then let it end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    Well it would depend on her outlook, what the Dr's say, if she is capable of pain, joy, love? Can she see, hear, think, feel does she even know she is alive?
    So many questions, so many choices. I would do what I thought was best I have said that all along. You might not agree with the choice I make but it is my soul and heart I have to live with.
    I don't think a life of blinking is enough for me or those I love. There has to be more and if there isn't then let it end.

    Marigold, to say the least you baffle me completely. From what you say, you've elected yourself as the power to be. So many choices....but those choices are not yours to make Marigold.
    Why do you think you are the one to decide when it should end? Fine, if you have a brain damaged child and you decide to just put that child in a home somewhere so that you can go on enjoying your life to the fullest, yes, that is your choice. Selfish yes, but your choice.
    But it is not your choice to decide when it all ends...I thought that decision rested with the Creator , you know, The One who is supposed to be in charge of calling His children home to Him when He sees fit.
    This country does not allow assisted suicide for a reason, if doctors don't want to interfere with God's will why do you feel you are in charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiel View Post
    Marigold, to say the least you baffle me completely. From what you say, you've elected yourself as the power to be. So many choices....but those choices are not yours to make Marigold.
    Why do you think you are the one to decide when it should end? Fine, if you have a brain damaged child and you decide to just put that child in a home somewhere so that you can go on enjoying your life to the fullest, yes, that is your choice. Selfish yes, but your choice.
    But it is not your choice to decide when it all ends...I thought that decision rested with the Creator , you know, The One who is supposed to be in charge of calling His children home to Him when He sees fit.
    This country does not allow assisted suicide for a reason, if doctors don't want to interfere with God's will why do you feel you are in charge?
    Thank you for this post, Asiel. This is exactly my point - and an issue that Marigold chooses not to answer. So be it............

    Marigold, I will pursue this no more, since it's obviously a waste of time. Sorry if I offended you by my remarks about you, but I call it like I see it.

    I hope that you will never have a bump in the road - big or small - that will change your lifestyle and make you think of another person's comfort and well being, rather than placing yourself at the top of the list. They say that God never gives us more than we can handle, so perhaps you will be among those that are never dealt a bad hand.
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    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
    Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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    I did not insult the above person.
    She got upset and insulted me. I don't take offense. I know she is angry and I know she did not mean it, just frustrated.

    Not a big deal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
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    LH- what was that phrase you used at least one other time with respect to this poster, something about digging a hole? It is so appropriate here now. The back pedaling, the clarifying, the excusing. Kind of funny. Sad, but funny, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    LH- what was that phrase you used at least one other time with respect to this poster, something about digging a hole? It is so appropriate here now. The back pedaling, the clarifying, the excusing. Kind of funny. Sad, but funny, too.
    When you find yourself in a hole, the first step should be put down the shovel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    When you find yourself in a hole, the first step should be put down the shovel?
    YES! LOL, I have this horrible way of taking two amusing 'quotes' and combining them. They are usually funny, but not accurate.

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