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    I would be inclined to give Irwin some more time at 6 years young
    Is Irwin in a lot of pain where hes scraeming when he eliminates?
    They are making such advances in Vet Technonology , I would get another opinion if you feel that this Vet isnt helping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catmandu View Post
    I would be inclined to give Irwin some more time at 6 years young
    Is Irwin in a lot of pain where hes scraeming when he eliminates?
    They are making such advances in Vet Technonology , I would get another opinion if you feel that this Vet isnt helping.
    We are doubling Our Prayers for Incredible Irwin so he can beat this disease
    Only when he was passing the stones, but the stones are gone now, they went in and flushed him all out.

    Basically the stones aggravate his urethra, and his urethra will become inflamed and then I'll catch him peeing blood in the sink.

    The stones are gone now, but I don't know what a "thickened bladder wall" means in terms of discomfort.

    I used to live in NYC, and he was treated there by at least 10 vets including at the animal medical center. And now here we've been to 3 with him and I really like this vet. Irwins had countless urinalysis, x rays, ultrasounds, prescription diets, anti-inflammatories, etc. I must've spent at least $10,000 in the last 5 years.

    What we did was, we went in and cleaned him out and now we are "starting over" with him, on a different prescription diet, no stones. But there is nothing they can do for a thickened bladder, its just something that happens with the FLUTD. She said the vessels that lead to the bladder are also engorged, but his kidneys functions came back fine.

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    I would wait and see how Poor Irwin does with his New Medications.
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    We will have Irwin in Our Thughts and Prayers Tonight.
    Hes such a WonderCat
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    I agree with Gary. Take a wait and see approach, as long as he's not in any pain. Sometimes cats can live long lives with certain conditions (MooShoo lived almost 11 years with a bloodclot). Certain conditions can also be corrected or maintained with different kinds of food. Ask your vet.

    If and when the time comes that you have to make that very difficult decision, make it with your head, not your heart. Also take into consideration what his quality of life will be if you try to keep on sustaining him.

    I had to do that with my RB Mollie Rose. She was my very first cat and was 16 when I had to make the decision. She had severe kidney disease and had lost 4 pounds in less than a year. I noticed how skinny she was. Then one day she was laying at the water fountain yowling. I ran her to the vet and they kept her overnight, and did tests. He told me there really weren't many options unless I wanted to spend $1,000 for an ultrasound. I would've sold my soul if it would've made her whole, happy and healthy. But it would not. I came to the realization it was time. She lived a wonderful, pampered 16 years and got me through so many difficulties and tragedies in my life. I will never forget her.

    I also believe that no animal should die alone. So, while the vet gave her the injection, I petted her, telling her I loved her with all my heart, and to go to the RB and be happy. LES right now.

    You and Irwin will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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    Donna you got me crying too. I went through a similar thing with Taz.

    I agree with Donna and Gary. It sounds like Irwin is doing well right now since the stones are gone. I would try the medication and food and see how that goes for him.

    I remember when Taz was very sick and all my PT family kept telling me "you'll know when it's time". I didn't want to face that fact AT ALL. But the last time he went to the vet she said "I would not try to stop you if you want to let him go today". Well of course I didn't WANT to. But she said there was basically nothing left to do for him. I'd done the fluids for a few weeks with no results. It was time even though I didn't want it to be. I also stayed with him while he went. Oh man, all those emotions are rushing back to me right now.

    Irwin is sooo young, I hope he has a few (if not more) years left with you. And you should know when he's had enough.

    Good luck! And I'll keep Irwin in my thoughts.
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    Major LES here.
    Having gone thru this very painfully and very recently, I completely agree with everyone here. Irwin will tell you when he's done. Don't start packing his bags yet! They can really be miracles and when he's done, he will absolutely tell you so. Hobbes did and no amount of money I wished I could throw at teh problem was going to make him whole again.
    I think Irwin has alot of living to do yet. You are an excellent meowmie!
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    I don't think UTIs and stones in a younger kitty are USUALLY causes for euthanasia. If you choose the food and kitty treats wisely, and make sure he gets lots of fluids (adding warm water to mush up some wet food a bit helps), then handsome Irwin should be with you for many years to some.

    Shortly after I got my tabby Oscar a few years ago, he developed a nasty cystitis. There weren't many crystals - and those that were there were gone in a week with a change in diet. However, there was blood in his urine up to a month later.

    In addition to changing his food, my vet said I could use the powder from a cranberry capsule. About 50 mg - or 1/5 of a capsule, as I eyeballed it - went into a small amount of totally plain unflavoured low fat yogurt. Oscar loved that stuff, and got the cranberry in with it. It was to be used for about a month. (You can ask your vet about this).

    Hugs to you and to Irwin, and I am sure you will be able to maintain his new health for a very long time.
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