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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Z View Post
    Oh dear!

    It still astounds me how we have to hate on each other's countries so much on this forum.

    Now, before I get back to my afternoon tea and biscuits and croquet...

    Blue, I did find myself agreeing with the issue you raised about anti-Catholicism. I was quite surprised, when following this thread, about some of the choice words against them. My country has quite a history of falling out with Catholics , but I've yet to experience the same level of venom I've sensed here with the religious folk I know personally.

    I think there is corruption in most religious sects, and as usual they ruin it for all the decent people.

    It is fair to say, though, that everyone in this thread is agreed that these priests cannot, and should not be able to, hide behind the shroud of their faith and should be tried and punished as anyone else would. That is the real cause for outcry in this issue, not the Catholic way of living.

    I think I may have posted a thread about it a long while ago; there was a vicar in my area who was convicted for downloading indecent images of kids. I don't know why I didn't think of it before. I don't remember exactly what type of Church he belonged to, but it was certainly not a Catholic one.

    Back to the marriage issue - he had it all. Wife, kids, nice house, lots of friends. One day, his son discovers the images. Frustrated, or just wrongly wired in the head?

    These people turn up in all walks of life, just when it occurs in a religious group, where we expect everyone to be perfect, it feels all the more damning.

    This thread should not be used as a chance for a pop at the Catholics.
    Great choice of words, Zara. I agree with you completely.

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    Well golly gee !!!!
    We are accused of taking a pop at the church ???
    Now I've REALLY got my dander up !!!!

    Bill and Blue....we should discuss this over tea and cucumber sandwiches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    30 or 40 year old sexual abuse stories really are only good for one thing arent they? An attack on the Church, and an attack on the Pope. As a badly behaving Catholic for most of my life even I can see these stories for what they are an attack on religion.
    Agreed. I'm Catholic and don't agree with all aspects of my religion. (some of you made some good points against the Catholic Church.) I still think the press is having a hey day with the Catholics.
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    More info is coming out about the Pope being aware of sex abuse against children and sweeping it under the rug. My question to those Catholics is

    Why should he not be arrested and charged as anyone else would be and why are the priests not charged with a crime?

    That is the question. Can anyone give me an honest answser?

    This has nothing to do with the church itself. This has to do with men who sexually abuse children.

    Doesn't matter if you are a policemen, firemen, plumber, carpet cleaner, TV repair man, landscaper, dentist, truck driver, business owner, priest or pope.

    If you sexually abuse a child you should go to jail for a very long time if not for life.

    Warren Jeffs hid behind his religon and he is in jail.

    If a dentist abuses a child and he says to the police, " well priets do it and it is sweep under the rug, why can't I do it, I am Catholic as well?"

    What would your answer be to this? He is a man, he is Catholic, he abused a child. Nothing else matters, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    What would your answer be to this? He is a man, he is Catholic, he abused a child. Nothing else matters, does it?
    I think ANYONE who abuses a child, or covers up knowledge of it, should be arrested and charged, no matter WHO they are.
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    http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article...ity%2F19425428

    The school should have beat the kid, the mother and the father.

    This is the kind of BS that should never happen-making stupid kids into martyrs.

    I would have kicked the crap out of my kid and told the judge to triple the sentence.

    Moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    More info is coming out about the Pope being aware of sex abuse against children and sweeping it under the rug.
    My question to you is...

    Where are the links to the info?

    Why should he not be arrested and charged as anyone else would be and why are the priests not charged with a crime?
    The Pope is not a US citizen, you really think the Vatican Police Department is going to arrest the Pope to be charged?

    This has nothing to do with the church itself. This has to do with men who sexually abuse children.

    Doesn't matter if you are a policemen, firemen, plumber, carpet cleaner, TV repair man, landscaper, dentist, truck driver, business owner, priest or pope.
    Priests and the clergy are far more scrutinized then policemen, firemen, plumber, carpet cleaner, TV repair man, landscaper, dentist, truck driver, business owners, so why is it teachers and not priests are in the news for recent sexual abuse of minors?

    If you sexually abuse a child you should go to jail for a very long time if not for life.
    If you sexually abuse a child you forfeit your life in my eyes.

    Warren Jeffs hid behind his religon and he is in jail.
    Where he should be in our society. Im not so understanding.

    If a dentist abuses a child and he says to the police, " well priets do it and it is sweep under the rug, why can't I do it, I am Catholic as well?"

    What would your answer be to this? He is a man, he is Catholic, he abused a child. Nothing else matters, does it?
    If "The Catholic Priests do it why cant I" was a viable defense why are so many teachers and cops going to jail and not priests?

    My answer to anybody convicted of abusing a child? Its a ten cent solution.
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