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  1. #1
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    What i don't get here is the logic behind this decision, it just does not add up,maybe they just cannot be bothered with taking care of an elderly puss and knowing that in time he will get things wrong with him and need care,but yes they are being unkind in their decision IMO, to think i do anything i possibly can to keep my ole Ash going and he is only 14 with CRF, and they cannot give this old cat the time of day.

    Hopefully what goes around comes around, they will be old one day, maybe no-one will want to care for them either. GRRR...is all i can say.

    Please keep trying to talk with them and see if you can make any headway, you may well be able to turn their thoughts around to not making such a decision, it is just as well Puss is none the wiser isn't it?
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    sure is nice of everyone here to determine who should and shouldn't own pets

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    Quote Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties View Post
    sure is nice of everyone here to determine who should and shouldn't own pets
    Not sure I quite follow you here. We are on a pet forum. We have been told that this family intends to PTS an otherwise healthy senior cat because it is old. Really, that doesn't seem like the type of person that should have cats (or any pets). Where are you finding fault with people's reactions? You agree with this practice?

    To the OP and those talking about being non-confrontational, I am curious. Are you saying that you don't say things to people when confronted with situations like this? To the OP- have you come right out and expressed your feelings on this very topic? I can't imagine not saying anything. Those animals have no voice but ours. No friendship- be it friend OR family- can mean that much to me that I can't speak out on what I see as the ills of this world.

    I am true to myself, first. This has nothing to do with being confrontational (though, of course, I have no problem with that), this has to do with being true to yourself, to standing up to what you consider inhumane treatment to animals.

    You say, "They are really warm, generous, loving people who don't think kitties need any loving or care. It just doesn't compute." This makes no sense. Why would you want a friendship with these type of people? If your friendship can't be traded on to teach, educate, influence others in the way they treat/view those dependent on it, what good is it?

    When it comes to some things, and the humane treatment of animals is one of them, one is either in it with me, or against me.

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    Cataholic does raise some valid points, i too was rather surprised at your reaction,and did not know quite what to say about it, but she has summed it up. Why would you find fault with people's reactions here?
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    RIP my gorgeous Sooti, taken from us far too young, we miss your beautiful face and purssonality,take care of Ash for us, love you xx000❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Ash,your pawprints are forever in my heart, love and miss you so much my big boy. ❤️❤️

    RIP my sweet gorgeous girl Ellie-Mae, a little battler to the end, you will never ever be forgotten, your little soul is forever in my heart, my thoughts, my memories, my love for you will never die, Love you my darling little precious girl.❤️❤️

    RIP our sweet Nikita taken suddenly ,way too soon ,you were a special girl we loved you so much ,miss you ❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Lexie, 15 years of unconditional love you gave us, we loved you so much, and miss you more than words can say.❤️❤️

    RIP beautiful Evee Ray Skye ,my life will never be the same with out you ,I loved you so much, I will never forget you ,miss you my darling .❤️❤️

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    Cataholic-just to let you know, I have voiced my opinion and concern. They don't think their treatment of the kitties is out of line. In the husband's words, they have food, and a roof over their heads when they want it. He also figures he's given Puss 19 "good" years he wouldn't have had as they took him in off the street. I disagree and will try to change things if I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties View Post
    sure is nice of everyone here to determine who should and shouldn't own pets
    I too found this post as strange to say the least, but having been viewed as a poster that's confrontational at times, I figured I'd just leave it alone.

    Thank you Cataholic for expressing what I was thinking.
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    I think we should give Pinots Mom more credit here and have faith in her, i am sure she will do her best to change their minds, you can only do so much, people have different ideas, some would consider our love and care towards our pets extreme and nutty even,unfortunately not everyone feels as we all do,and what Pinots mom expressed about their feelings is more common than not.

    Let us just keep hoping she can change their minds, I know she will do her very best, good luck, as i am sure you are going to need it, and bless you for trying.
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    RIP my gorgeous Sooti, taken from us far too young, we miss your beautiful face and purssonality,take care of Ash for us, love you xx000❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Ash,your pawprints are forever in my heart, love and miss you so much my big boy. ❤️❤️

    RIP my sweet gorgeous girl Ellie-Mae, a little battler to the end, you will never ever be forgotten, your little soul is forever in my heart, my thoughts, my memories, my love for you will never die, Love you my darling little precious girl.❤️❤️

    RIP our sweet Nikita taken suddenly ,way too soon ,you were a special girl we loved you so much ,miss you ❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Lexie, 15 years of unconditional love you gave us, we loved you so much, and miss you more than words can say.❤️❤️

    RIP beautiful Evee Ray Skye ,my life will never be the same with out you ,I loved you so much, I will never forget you ,miss you my darling .❤️❤️

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    why do I find fault with this thread? Because it's nobody's business. If Pinot's Mom knows these people, she needs to deal with them herself, not spread their business on an internet forum.

    Puss is their cat, not ours. Obviously if they feel they cannot give him the care he really needs then it's up to them to find him a new home or humanely PTS.

    Plenty of people out there have pets that are just that...pets. They're not family members, they're not children, they're animals. As long as they receive proper vet care and some sort of attention on a regular basis, I'm not gonna judge someone for not coddling their animals. Would you rather a dog be a backyard pet, or just die in a shelter. Should "barn cats" all be killed to save them from a life outdoors?

    Puss has obviously been cared for to some extent or he wouldn't have lived to his advanced age. If this family feels that Puss isn't happy any more or requires more attention than they can give him, then let them find a new home or PTS rather than let him slowly decline.

    Bottom line, I refuse to "throw somebody under the bus" just because they don't care for their animals as much as I do for mine. I sure as hell ain't gonna share their business with other people who don't know them just to make myself feel better for butting in.

    I'm not gonna pass judgement until I hear Puss' owners give their side of the story. If I told someone I kicked a dog and they spread it all over the internet, then everyone here would be ready to firebomb my house. Never mind that I kicked that big dog to get him to let go of the little dog he was attacking. There are 2 sides to every story and in Puss' case we've only seen one. Do you know what I'm getting at?

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    Yes, I do understand what you're saying, and your point of different treatment of pets is why I made the original post. I have a dilemma and wanted others opinions from a place where pets are first and foremost. These people mean a great deal to me and my husband, and this hurts me. I have not spread this all over the internet, I have not used their names, I have been doing what I can to try and save the life of a kitty who has done nothing wrong except to get older. I appreciate your input, aTailof2Kitties, it's another point of view.

    Thank you carole, pomtzu, Indigo Bully, momto4 and others who have written positive support; it means a lot. I will keep doing my best.
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    I am glad she came back and posted about her comment, because i have to say a lot of it does make sense and i cannot argue with most of it,neither do i want to.

    In Pinots Mom's defence though i have to say as she stated she has not put this on here with any bad intentions, just as she said herself for advice, there is nothing wrong with that, and we do not know these people and their identity is safe,so no harm done there.

    I just hope you can find a happy solution Pinots mom that will ease your mind,and still keep your friendship in tact, i understand where you are coming from and you do have a dilemma somewhat to deal with,again all the best of luck.,here is hoping for a positive outcome.
    Furangels only lent.
    RIP my gorgeous Sooti, taken from us far too young, we miss your beautiful face and purssonality,take care of Ash for us, love you xx000❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Ash,your pawprints are forever in my heart, love and miss you so much my big boy. ❤️❤️

    RIP my sweet gorgeous girl Ellie-Mae, a little battler to the end, you will never ever be forgotten, your little soul is forever in my heart, my thoughts, my memories, my love for you will never die, Love you my darling little precious girl.❤️❤️

    RIP our sweet Nikita taken suddenly ,way too soon ,you were a special girl we loved you so much ,miss you ❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Lexie, 15 years of unconditional love you gave us, we loved you so much, and miss you more than words can say.❤️❤️

    RIP beautiful Evee Ray Skye ,my life will never be the same with out you ,I loved you so much, I will never forget you ,miss you my darling .❤️❤️

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