Flight 253

[Grace]

It's not so much the terrorism thing that bothers me. I don't want to get stuck in a plane on a runway for hours and hours. And that happens more and more frequently.

[smokey the elder]

I'm with Grace on that. I have mild claustrophobia, and the idea of being trapped on the plane freaks me out. If I'm driving I can stop and bail out!

[Pinot's Mom]

I cannot let the terrorism threat alter plans. We still fly, and Lord willing, always will. We enjoy travel too much.

[cassiesmom]

I like to drive, except that traffic jams make me panicky. I was once behind an accident that shut down the highway -- it was the helpless "can't get out of here" feeling. I think being stuck in a plane on the tarmac would probably have the same effect on me.

Travelers are measuring their toiletries into 3-ounce bottles and this guy is sewing explosives into his tighty whities ... what's wrong with this picture?

[RICHARD]

George Bush is to blame for this.

If the government hadn't flown those two jets into the WTC-we would not have to worry.

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LOLOLOLOL,
I was watching some simp on msnbc who started a traveler's web site or some such nonsense.

This idiot woman admitted to flying some 40 times with a bottle of mace and never being bothered about it.

I love it when people like the AH politician who would not hang up his phone, Ivana Trump and every family that climbs on board an airplane begin to complain about the service, hassles, threats and other crap while the rest of the responsible travelers have to listen to that babble..

It really is bad enough to wonder if someone wants to auger in the plane you are on...When you hear these delusion fools who don't want to behave or have to make a scene while on the tarmac how does that make you feel?

Make them travel on the wings or in the landing gear bay....


Wah,

No one wants to be searched or scanned...

Think of it this way.

When they come across your body in the wreckage, you really don't have anything to complain about anymore.

Rock on.

[Lady's Human]

One question:

When was the last El Al flight taken out?

[Cataholic]

Cars are so much more dangerous thats what I don't understand. My friends son is in the hospital with a broken back, neck, skull...from a car...and this type of thing happens all the time but people don't think twice before jumping behind the wheel it just seems kind of funny to me.

Since I moved home in 1995, I hardly ever fly. Since J came along, I have flown twice. So, I am not really a traveller by any stretch. But, I do drive all the time, of course. I rationalize your comments like this: most of the time, a car wreck will be a non-fatal situation. A plane wreck is usually a fatal situation. I would rather take my chances on the car situation.

[Grace]

One question:

When was the last El Al flight taken out?

Don't forget Southwest

Let's see, Richard Reid and his shoe bomb happened about 8 years ago. As far as I can recall, this is the first incident of this type since then.

How many planes have taken off and landed, world wide, in those 8 years?

[Lady's Human]

Point being, El Al has very strict screening for their flights.

However, it's based on suspect profiling, biometric monitoring and intelligence feeds from military and civilian sources. It is very, very thorough, and would never pass muster with certain political interests in the US.

They're more concerned with making sure that an 80 y/o grandmother is given the same security screening as a 23 y/o arab male who bought a one way ticket 2 hours before the flight with cash.

[RICHARD]

Point being, El Al has very strict screening for their flights.

However, it's based on suspect profiling, biometric monitoring and intelligence feeds from military and civilian sources. It is very, very thorough, and would never pass muster with certain political interests in the US.

They're more concerned with making sure that an 80 y/o grandmother is given the same security screening as a 23 y/o arab male who bought a one way ticket 2 hours before the flight with cash.

El Al?

I heard they do a rectal/prostate exams and Pap smears to all passengers-just in case.

El Al?

Hasta te hablan a tu mama a ver si eres un maldito!!.


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Let's play devil's advocate here.

For all the flights to and from the U.S. EVERYONE has to be screened.

You have to remember that they screenings probably are not as detailed/involved for passengers at every airport. Foreign officials do not
want to tick the locals off and certainly do not want any 'foreign' carrier's plane to land in THEIR back yard.

Best to get the 'Muricans" out of your hair.


To even THINK that tighter screening in the U.S. will prevent something like a jacking or bombing here is very interesting.

I love unicorns and Leprachauns and all that is make-believe.


Last El Al flight successfully jacked? 1969. Even they couldn't pull off an 'undefeated season'.

[Lady's Human]

Most of the methods used by El AL were implemented BECAUSE of the spate of jackings and attempted bombings they had in '68-'70.

Hasn't happened since.

Not saying it won't, no system is perfect, but the current system, despite what Sec. Napolitano said, is severely broken.

[RICHARD]

Not saying it won't, no system is perfect, but the current system, despite what Sec. Napolitano said, is severely broken.

Agreed.

What makes me laugh is the way the story "reads".

'How did this idiot make it past U.S. authorities?' Which authorities are these?

First we have to see how this joker got on board.

Then, we make changes according to that story.

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The bright side of this story?

The terrorists have been thinking of ways to get explosives onto aircraft.

Back to the drawing board for them! I love inept terrorists.



BTW?

I wonder why any group would claim responsibility for a botched move like that?

[Medusa]

I wonder why any group would claim responsibility for a botched move like that?

Cranial rectosis.

[caseysmom]

Since I moved home in 1995, I hardly ever fly. Since J came along, I have flown twice. So, I am not really a traveller by any stretch. But, I do drive all the time, of course. I rationalize your comments like this: most of the time, a car wreck will be a non-fatal situation. A plane wreck is usually a fatal situation. I would rather take my chances on the car situation.

Well I'm not saying I don't understand because I get scared at takeoff's also it is just ironic to me that none of us usually feel that way about driving a car, I guess we take it for granted because we drive more often. With two new teen drivers trust me cars make me think twice now!

[RICHARD]

Cranial rectosis.

AKA

Cranio-rectal Asphyxiation?