Grrrrr..... I Hate Stupid People.

[luvofallhorses]

I don't know why it would scare people. "Pit bulls" are strong dogs, she was being and IS responsible.. It just gives the owner more control it doesn't make them look "mean" IMO..

[MonicanHonda]

I would have to say it does to people who don't know what these large collars are needed for. If my mother were to see a pit bull walking down the road with a large collar, she would probably cross the road. Hell, she'd cross the road just seeing a dog on that side of the road, especially a """"Mean"""" breed. And yes, she knows not all dogs are bad, and that it's the owners... but that still doesn't help the fact that she is afraid. We all just have to remember that not everyone owns or likes dogs. Not everyone cares to learn about dogs. It's not apbtmom's fault, it's not the elderly ladies fault. It's just a fact of life. I think this thread has just been misread and it has built everyone up to feel defensive.

[carole]

I don't think anyone mean't to scare your friend away from our board here and I for one hope she will stay, we just all have opinions, some of it was well mean't advice from the way i see it, i think she handled herself here with dignity, and although she may have felt she was being picked on , and i guess since it was her first post i can understand it, but this is PT, we all have our say, our agreements and disagreements, i don't think anyone was mean,just stating what they felt as she was, i hope she can see it that way and keep posting.

Again i stress i think it is dog owners who need to educate people about their breed especially if it has been given bad press as pit bulls are,i would not consider learning about dog breeds,and why should i really? and it seems that is what she intends on doing,i personally would be wary of anyone's dog that i did not know and would approach with caution and of course ask politely first, you know she may well have said the same thing to any dog owner not just because you had a pit bull, i think that is where you are being a tad over sensitive,but i can understand it too.

Anyhow don't be put off being here, it really is a wonderful place, i have been here over six years, i have had my ups and downs, and had a few people get annoyed with me too, but just take it with a grain of salt as the saying goes,you will get a lot more out of PT than you could ever imagine,it truly is a great place with some wonderful people, even the people here who may have a different view point to you on this subject, you know that really is all it is.
t to sca

[chocolatepuppy]

a lady about 50 maybe 55 to 60 years of age

it's not the elderly ladies fault.

"elderly???" You're killing me here! Guess I'll put on my Depends and grab my walker and head out to work!

[apbtmom76]

It seems to me that the Pitty owner was drawing attention to herself by walking a dog in to a regular store, wearing a camo sweater, wide leather collar and a chain collar. To me, it has nothing to do with the poor dog, but with the person needing the attention. She got attention, both positive and negative then complained about the "negative" attention.
I was drawing attention by walking into a non food place to get gift cards for x-mas, how is that drawing attention to myself?? And it's a freakin kid's hoodie to keep him warm, and his collar again IDK what all of you all have a hang up with the collar, but my boy does weight pull, maybe you all should google that, he has pulled jus tshy of 3,400lbs, would you want to walk him on one of those flimsy quick release collars, so maybe just maybe he could pull hard once and break it and run out into traffic or something like that, then I would be an irresponsible owner. And the choke chain is for correction purposes, Phoenix is a bit stubborn and I have to remind him that I am alpha on occassion. If I wanted attention I would buy him a huge spiked collar and a muzzle with bling on it, I am ok with critisicsm but when you all straight out start bashing my dog cause of his breed and COLLAR, give me a break. HAHAH I complained, that is what this was supposed to be, just me venting, like I said guess that is not allowed here.

Not everyone feels secure about walking near an unknown dog.
I can understand this, I have already stated that.

I always ask people if it is ok to pet their dog/cat whatever. I have had a little dogs snap at me when I moved my hand toward it.
I have worked at vet's offices and for 2 different groomers I ALWAYS ask to pet, no matter what.

I would have asked if the dog was ok with me passing by, simply based on the two collars alone.
Then this statement makes you as uneducated as the other woman, since stupid seems to offend so many. If you saw someone walk in with a muzzle and two collars ina Chi or a Pom would you feel the same way?? OF course not, it's a small dog.

I think the title of the thread could have been worded a little less meanly as well. That seemed to set the tone.
Nope is the way I felt, stupid people come in all forms and shapes, colors, whatever, like I said stupid is a lot of things.

You reap what you sow.

Oh yes, yes I do and I sow many a oat to listen to you all tell me that my dog's collar is too big and that I should be less responsible by not taking him anywhere and letting him walk all over me with a flimsy collar. Thanks next time I post it will be because my dog got hit by a car cause he broke out of his 1"collar.

Anytime my dogs leave the property, they wear two collars! They wear quick release collars with their tags and I hook the leash to a buckle collar. I hope no one is afraid of my little Jake because he has two collars. And to think people are afraid of Layla because she wears two collars to Petsmart. I thought they were afraid of the way she looked and here it was the collars!

My dogs always have on two collars, Penny doesn't really need a choker, but she has one on for back up, wit her seizures and meds she takes she stays right beside me as does the white boy, Orion. But he too wears a choker along with his buckle collar. See and I would totally walk and love on your dogs cause they had on two collars, means I know you have control and know where your dog is at all times

I think it was the fact that the two collars are the thick collar seen on many pit bulls because of their strength and the other collar... I think it was a chain collar? I dunno.

So again you all are judging my dog because of his collar, so should I judge you all for the color of your hair or the clothes that youall wear, NO cause that would make me prejudice.

I would have to say it does to people who don't know what these large collars are needed for. If my mother were to see a pit bull walking down the road with a large collar, she would probably cross the road. Hell, she'd cross the road just seeing a dog on that side of the road, especially a """"Mean"""" breed. And yes, she knows not all dogs are bad, and that it's the owners... but that still doesn't help the fact that she is afraid. We all just have to remember that not everyone owns or likes dogs. Not everyone cares to learn about dogs. It's not apbtmom's fault, it's not the elderly ladies fault. It's just a fact of life. I think this thread has just been misread and it has built everyone up to feel defensive.

Defensive yes, again I was just venting, I will not vent anymore, never had people jump to so many conclusions than here, and I know that my breed of choice is stereotyped it has been proven here, but like I said for what you all think I said to her to drive her away 5 different people came to pet him.

I don't think anyone mean't to scare your friend away from our board here and I for one hope she will stay, we just all have opinions, some of it was well mean't advice from the way i see it, i think she handled herself here with dignity, and although she may have felt she was being picked on , and i guess since it was her first post i can understand it, but this is PT, we all have our say, our agreements and disagreements, i don't think anyone was mean,just stating what they felt as she was, i hope she can see it that way and keep posting.
OPinions are good but bashing someones dog because of the collar they wear or a camo jacket that is put on for warmth is not IMO cool. And I am totally ok with people replying and having their say, I truely am, I can see that I posted here to vent and people bashed me for it. So noone is allowed to speak their peace or just not newbies? And you know ya might be right, maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut

Again i stress i think it is dog owners who need to educate people about their breed especially if it has been given bad press as pit bulls are,i would not consider learning about dog breeds,and why should i really? and it seems that is what she intends on doing,i personally would be wary of anyone's dog that i did not know and would approach with caution and of course ask politely first, you know she may well have said the same thing to any dog owner not just because you had a pit bull, i think that is where you are being a tad over sensitive,but i can understand it too.
No I am not being oversensitive, she said it was because he was a pit bull, so she judged my dog, based off his breed, it had nothing to do with his collar or jacket, it was his breed, and she said so, like I said I defend my dogs and my right to own them on a daily basis, I have educated more people than I care to count, not really cause I love to tell people the stories, lol, and I do not expect people to fully educate themselves btu you should NEVER believe everything you hear or see on tv, ppl are so gullable that way and it saddens me.

Anyhow don't be put off being here, it really is a wonderful place, i have been here over six years, i have had my ups and downs, and had a few people get annoyed with me too, but just take it with a grain of salt as the saying goes,you will get a lot more out of PT than you could ever imagine,it truly is a great place with some wonderful people, even the people here who may have a different view point to you on this subject, you know that really is all it is.
t to sca

I take most things with a grain of salt, I really am an easy going person for a triple fire sign Leo, lol, but it seems that my dogs and the breed I love are not as welcome here as everyone else, I will stay but lurk, lol, not a big person on confrontation, so I will just stay quiet, thank you though.

"elderly???" You're killing me here! Guess I'll put on my Depends and grab my walker and head out to work!

I rofllmaoooo when I saw this CP, guess that means I shouldn't be too far behind you, wow, did I say she was elderly, that is my mom's age and I do NOT see that as old, shoot I don't even see my grandma as old

[pomtzu]

If you are as responsible as you claim to be, then why isn't your dog neutered???

And I for one, would not have been disturbed by him wearing 2 collars. My issue is having him in the store unnecessarily in the first place. It served no purpose other than to call attention to yourself as noted in a previous post.

[Moesha]

Honestly, I haven't gotten the feeling that the posts here have been meant to bash the original poster. I got the feeling that people were just posting to help the OP see the reason why the individual that was referred to as "stupid and a b***h" acted the way she did and not because she was either of those things. Because the OP decided to take those things as personal attacks, things have escalated. No where did anyone say that your dog shouldn't wear two collars or even a large collar nor was there anyone that even suggested that you shouldn't take your dog anywhere. The large and two collars were mentioned just to indicate why someone may choose to be cautious when approaching you and your animal, especially in a setting where they probably were not expecting to see an animal. Just because there isn't a sign saying that animals are not allowed, doesn't mean that they are necessarily welcome. Just as one example, my place of worship doesn't say that animals aren't allowed, but common sense dictates that we don't bring our pets. I have a close friend who would sometimes bring her 5 pound poodle in to the post office and the local hardware store. I loved her dog and dog sat for her numerous times. I still cringed every time I saw her inside a place of business. Perhaps if you could look at things objectively, you'd realize these nice people weren't attacking you but just trying to help you see the reasons behind the actions that offended you.

[MonicanHonda]

Lol!!! I didn't really look at her age, I'm sorry!!! Lol >.> Well you know us whipper snappers...

[*LabLoverKEB*]

If you are as responsible as you claim to be, then why isn't your dog neutered???

I was wondering the same thing. Until I say the thread that introduced her dogs, I asked, and I believe she said he's a show dog, if I remember correctly.
Because as most know, a pit bull, with the tendency to become aggressive, and unaltered, can equal more aggression.


I am NOT in any way, shape, or form calling your dog aggressive, just to clarify.

[stace1319]

alot of people are scared of pits. My childhood dog was a pit/ boxer mix and almost everyone was afraid of her bacause she wsa 75% pit and she definately looked it. However, we didn't allow stranger to pet her and we made sure that we always had her under control because she was unpredictable around certain men and was very protective of the house and car. She was like that because the people she ran away from (we met them a year after we had her) had beaten her many times and made her the way she was. People do that to the breed and and the the dog gets the blame and not the owner. People are constantly afraid of harley! of all dogs, harley! lol... They are always saying that he looks like a pit I personally see absolutley no pit in him, but then again he is a pound so puppy so u never know. I always just tell them that I'm pritty sure he is boxer/ lab mix and he loves everybody. A little too much sometimes.

[Asiel]

If you are as responsible as you claim to be, then why isn't your dog neutered???

And I for one, would not have been disturbed by him wearing 2 collars. My issue is having him in the store unnecessarily in the first place. It served no purpose other than to call attention to yourself as noted in a previous post.

Omg....too funny. Ya sure do have good eyesight Pomtzu. I laughed so hard when I read about the dog not being neutered I had to go back and have a look, couldn't figure out how you knew this. Now I know too, I think I need new glasses...lol.

[stace1319]

Omg....too funny. Ya sure do have good eyesight Pomtzu. I laughed so hard when I read about the dog not being neutered I had to go back and have a look, couldn't figure out how you knew this. Now I know too, I think I need new glasses...lol.

haha! perverts!

[pomtzu]

haha! perverts!

How could anyone miss that set?????

[apbtmom76]

he is not neutered because he is in confirmation and weight pull, he has to be intact for confirmation, so YES I am responisble, thanks Y'all keep laughing, cause it's funny to watch you all

[chocolatepuppy]

Lol!!! I didn't really look at her age, I'm sorry!!! Lol >.> Well you know us whipper snappers...

LOL! You'll be old someday!

he is not neutered because he is in confirmation and weight pull, he has to be intact for confirmation, so YES I am responisble, thanks Y'all keep laughing, cause it's funny to watch you all

Geez Tye, I can't even get this many people to post on my pups threads, you are popular already!