Never Thought I'd See This Day

[Edwina's Secretary]

I have never understood. If a man responsible for murdering 500 old men, women and children in this country was given a sentence of three years house arrest the masses would be howling.

But at least it began to open peoples' eyes...

I find his statement at this point still self-serving and inadequate. He is bothered by what happened that day...he does not say he is bothered by what he did. "foolishly I guess"...still a weasel.

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I think Vietnam was a eye opening event to a lot of people. The war was
"served up" at dinner time via TV. It quicking lost favor as folks saw the
bloody reality of war.


Calley & the others should be haunted by what they did. And the old "following orders" line doesn't work for them.The US didn't allow
the Nazi solders that defense either.

War wasnt served up on the radio or at the movies during the World Wars? Granted Im not old enough to even remeber the Viet Nam War, but didnt they have nightly news broadcasts and news reels at the movies during the WWs?

Wasnt it during Viet Nam that the nightly news stopped being objective and started injecting opinions?

I have never understood. If a man responsible for murdering 500 old men, women and children in this country was given a sentence of three years house arrest the masses would be howling.

But at least it began to open peoples' eyes...

I find his statement at this point still self-serving and inadequate. He is bothered by what happened that day...he does not say he is bothered by what he did. "foolishly I guess"...still a weasel.

I agree with you that he got off way too light, and that more then his CO should have been tried for CM.

However you seemed to have skipped over this,

"There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in My Lai, I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who were killed, for their families, for the American soldiers involved and their families. I am very sorry."

In case you dont understand the meaning of remorse.

re⋅morse
1. deep and painful regret for wrongdoing; compunction.
2. Obsolete. pity; compassion.

I find it funny that liberals, Not ES or Lizbud, think that child molesters can be rehabilitated, but dont think that a Viet Nam Vet can be bothered, feel remore, or be personally tortured for what they did in a horrific situation.




How sweet, my quote is in your sig. You still arent a cougar, and nothing you can ever say will change that. Ive seen your picture.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I find it funny that liberals, Not ES or Grace, think that child molesters can be rehabilitated, but dont think that a Viet Nam Vet can be bothered, feel remore, or be personally tortured for what they did in a horrific situation.

You show me where anyone here has EVER said a child molester can be rehabilitated...and I will stop calling you a mindless, spineless twit.

I do not know how someone who murdered more people than Charles Manson can EVER show sufficient remorse.

Take your tasteless crap..."liberals think this ...liberals think that"...you don't know the meaning of the word "think" and put it where it and you belong! Because you do not get it.

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You show me where anyone here has EVER said a child molester can be rehabilitated...and I will stop calling you a mindless, spineless twit.

I do not know how someone who murdered more people than Charles Manson can EVER show sufficient remorse.

Take your tasteless crap..."liberals think this ...liberals think that"...you don't know the meaning of the word "think" and put it where it and you belong! Because you do not get it.

No. I cant take your blinders off, you have to do that for yourself. If you truely think for yourself, why are you deffending "liberals"? I deliberately excluded you from being a liberal and you deliberately insult me.

I still agree, With You, that Lt. Calley got off way to lightly and that more should have a least gone through court martial proceedings.

With all the grief, attacks and insults Ive gotten on this board you call me Spineless?! Twit, go look in the mirror.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I can see why you were kicked out of the marines and banned from other boards.

Well earned...Spineless, mindless twit.

Since you obviously are not well acquainted with US history..."At long last...have you no decency?"

Was said to Joe McCarthy...to whom you bear a strong resemblance.

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I can see why you were kicked out of the marines and banned from other boards.

Well earned...Spineless, mindless twit.

Since you obviously are not well acquainted with US history..."At long last...have you no decency?"

Was said to Joe McCarthy...to whom you bear a strong resemblance.

I have an Honorable Discharge from the USMC. Both of my ankles are messed up, I have chronic bursitus in both hips and I get zero benifits for it. Well earned indeed.

Take your blinders off. The freedoms you have exist because people where willing to fight, kill and die.

With this thread Im begining to see why you and Liz dont respect those serving as well as those who have served.

ETA: Im sure ES will make her case for my resemblance to McCarthy, otherwise she is as usual talking out of her back side.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I have an Honorable Discharge from the USMC. Both of my ankles are messed up, I have chronic bursitus in both hips and I get zero benifits for it. Well earned indeed.

So did all of these physical problems result from the four months you were in the Marines?

Was that before or after you threw a food tray at an officer?

You post this stuff....

[Edwina's Secretary]

ETA: Im sure ES will make her case for my resemblance to McCarthy, otherwise she is as usual talking out of her back side.

I didn't intend to ...but since you asked....

Here you can find out who Joe McCarthy was.

As for your resemblance...one example...someone posted about their admiration for a guy who introduced dancing to Michael Jackson music to a prison in the Phillipines. You jumped all over her for not appreciating what a great thing this guy did. That was of course, the exact opposite of what she said.


Never let the truth or facts get in the way of a good attack!

As for it not being a war unless Congress declares it...check the US Constitution for that one.

The Boys are working really hard on this tonight! What mindless drizzle can we expect???

[Edwina's Secretary]

You still arent a cougar, and nothing you can ever say will change that. Ive seen your picture.

With not even the integrity to be insulting honestly....

What he does is type insults and color them white. Oh isn't he a clever boy?

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With not even the integrity to be insulting honestly....

What he does is type insults and color them white. Oh isn't he a clever boy?

I dont pretend to take the high road and never have, their are plenty of pretenders allready. Ill be sneaky and stick to the median, its a much more honest place to be.

[lizbud]

War wasnt served up on the radio or at the movies during the World Wars? Granted Im not old enough to even remeber the Viet Nam War, but didnt they have nightly news broadcasts and news reels at the movies during the WWs?

Vietnam was not a world war ,and yes they did show footage of WW2
at the movies.

Vietnam footage was shown on TV during nightly news. I saw it every
night. Check things out before you blabber on about stuff you know
nothing about.

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/V/...ietnamonte.htm


http://australianinvolvementinvietna...television+war

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Vietnam was not a world war ,and yes they did show footage of WW2
at the movies.

Vietnam footage was shown on TV during nightly news. I saw it every
night. Check things out before you blabber on about stuff you know
nothing about.

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/V/...ietnamonte.htm


http://australianinvolvementinvietna...television+war

Go talk down to somebody else.

I do know that every chance the liberal media got, they shoved the most horrible news possible down the publics neck during the VNW. Anything good our soldiers did in VN took a back seat to the absolute worst. We cant get real news on the TV anymore because of newscasters injecting their opinions into the news during Viet Nam.

During the World Wars, newscasters reported the news. During Viet Nam newscasters decided what was news and it has gone downhill ever since.

I understand that the lefties had a First Amendment Right to spit on our soldiers, that doesnt make it right. The soldiers yall spit on, made that Right possible.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Since we need to educate the uneducated...

Let's start with the conflict in Vietnam was not a war. A war needs to be declared as such by Congress. Which was never done.

Reporting of WWII was without bias? Oh please. Listen to Edward R. Murrow reporting from London and you will hear some of the best reporting ever to take place. Entirely biased...entirely partisan.

Whoever said it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and confirm it was talking to you blue!

Spitting on the military. Not me. But there were some bad guys who did some very bad things and never paid the price. They happen to wear a uniform.

The "media bias" has to be one of the biggest myths going. Was there censorship...you bet...can Americans handle the truth? I believe so. I believe the American public is intelligent enough - for the most part - to handle the truth -- good, bad or ugly. And make the decision accordingly.

And that is what happened with the Viet Nam Conflict. Once again...you "dont get it" (sic)

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Since we need to educate the uneducated...

Let's start with the conflict in Vietnam was not a war. A war needs to be declared as such by Congress. Which was never done.

Reporting of WWII was without bias? Oh please. Listen to Edward R. Murrow reporting from London and you will hear some of the best reporting ever to take place. Entirely biased...entirely partisan.

Whoever said it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and confirm it was talking to you blue!

Spitting on the military. Not me. But there were some bad guys who did some very bad things and never paid the price. They happen to wear a uniform.

The "media bias" has to be one of the biggest myths going. Was there censorship...you bet...can Americans handle the truth? I believe so. I believe the American public is intelligent enough - for the most part - to handle the truth -- good, bad or ugly. And make the decision accordingly.

And that is what happened with the Viet Nam Conflict. Once again...you "dont get it" (sic)

I guess Karen didnt get the memo from you that personal attacks are now OK.

So multiple nations attacking another isnt a war now? Sending our Dogs out against another country isnt an act of war? Semantics, you can go lay down.

Its fool, not idiot. Fool, thanks for trying to drag me down to your level.

Have you read "Bias"? It was written by a well known liberal, a newscaster and commentator. I trust him more then you.

So now you feel guilt for spitting on our Troops, the same people who gave you that Right.

The media bias was the worst thing to happen to our Troops in modern times. At least in the World Wars America didnt spit on their Service members the way yall do.

Go join Liz and go talk down to somebody else.

[lizbud]

Go talk down to somebody else.

I do know that every chance the liberal media got, they shoved the most horrible news possible down the publics neck during the VNW. Anything good our soldiers did in VN took a back seat to the absolute worst. We cant get real news on the TV anymore because of newscasters injecting their opinions into the news during Viet Nam.

You don't have to be embarrassed to admit you didn't know about
Vietnam. Just admit it or don't post anything as fact unless you can
back it up with facts.

LBJ said , when he lost support from Walter Cronkite, he knew he had
lost support of the people for this war. He was the first newscaster to
speak his honest feelings of what he saw & experienced while covering
the Vietnam war.