Government run health care

[Lady's Human]

If the plan being discussed in the hallowed halls of Congress was merely meant to assist people who need help, I doubt many would have any issues with it.

The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.

[Miss Z]

The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.

Could you tell me why this would be a monstrosity?

[Lady's Human]

No, quite honestly, because at 1300 pages and climbing, most of the representatives can't even explain what's in the bill.

To paraphrase one of the legislators who will vote on the proposals if and when they ever come out of committee, it would take too much time to read, so why bother?

[pomtzu]

No, quite honestly, because at 1300 pages and climbing, most of the representatives can't even explain what's in the bill.

To paraphrase one of the legislators who will vote on the proposals if and when they ever come out of committee, it would take too much time to read, so why bother?

Pretty darn sad state of affairs - don't ya' think??

They finally pull out one of the issues that has been swept under the rug with the hopes of some kind of resolution finally being addressed, and the powers that be that might be able to get the ball rolling, all stick their heads in the sand...........

[lizbud]

The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.

The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.

I have heard about the changes that brought about Social Security and
Medicare were resisted by many people initially. The world did not stop
turning & we progressed as a society.

[Lady's Human]

The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

[lizbud]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

Okey, dokey.

[Puckstop31]

The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.

I have heard about the changes that brought about Social Security and
Medicare were resisted by many people initially. The world did not stop
turning & we progressed as a society.

SS and Medicare/Medicade are BROKE. I contracted to the IT em that supported PA Medicade. Oy.....

Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.


"Progress". Huh. Wait till YOU are on it I reckon. I will NEVER be.

[pomtzu]

Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.

You mean you can't figure out how I feel, based on what I had to say about Medicare?????

[lizbud]

You mean you can't figure out how I feel, based on what I had to say about Medicare?????

From one Medicare "customer" to another, what don't you like about it?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

If you all are only paying $125 a year for Medicare deductable I WANT A REFUND!!! I paid $235 or over this year.

Also, in our state, a person who has no children can not get Welfare. We can get public assistance for a time. Back in the 90s it was about $125 a month. (try living on THAT!!!!!) I had to go on it until my Social Security Disabiliy kicked in. After my Social Security started, I paid every dime of the public assistance money back!!! By the way, I did not delare myself unable to work, my doctor did.

How good is Social Security? Well, it's a darn sight better than being homeless!!!
We had a surplus in SS until they borrowed it after 9/11.

[Puckstop31]

How good is Social Security? Well, it's a darn sight better than being homeless!!!
We had a surplus in SS until they borrowed it after 9/11.

LOL.


Where did you see that lie? Its been broke for WAY longer than that.

My company has a clilent who provides low income housing. When visiting these properties to provide support... it never ceases to amaze me the old people bitching about how little SS provides them... As they smoke cigarettes, in their SS provided motorized wheelchairs, in their government provided housing.... With their government provided housing, that sucks. That is hard to collect OUR bills from....


I love my country. I HATE my government. (Be sure to quote that one ES.)

[Grace]

From one Medicare "customer" to another, what don't you like about it?

I have no problems with some of the features; and big complaints about others.

For starters, I, too, would like to know how to get a $125 per year deductible. Every single month last year, $96.40 was deducted from my SS check. That added up to $1156.80 for the year. I understand that there will not be an increase this year because there will be no increase in Soc. Sec. amounts.

I'm fortunate - I don't have to use the Medicare drug program. Both of us have excellent retiree prescription plans.

My main thing about Medicare - I think there should be more emphasis placed on preventive care. It's a whole lot cheaper to pay for prevention than for a disease.

Example: I'm a Type 2 Diabetic. Medicare says that any diabetic who does not use insulin should only test their blood glucose once a day. They will only pay for one strip/day. That's insane. Only by testing will a diabetic know how well, or how poorly, they are doing from day to day, week to week. If, out of nowhere, my glucose starts becoming higher, how will I know if I'm not testing?

Then there is that shingles vaccine. I know 'they' say you should get it once you're 60, and that would be before you went on Medicare. However, in the case of some of us, we hit 65 before the vaccine came out. So Medicare would rather chance that we get shingles, then pay a one time fee for the vaccine?

[Edwina's Secretary]

I have no problems with some of the features; and big complaints about others.

For starters, I, too, would like to know how to get a $125 per year deductible. Every single month last year, $96.40 was deducted from my SS check. That added up to $1156.80 for the year.

Sometimes the insurance "lingo" can be confusing.

Normally - deductible refers to the amount you pay before the insurance begins paying. Just as with your car - you may pay the first $500 or whatever - then the insurance kicks in. It is possible that you have a co-pay to see the doctor or for drugs but there is a deductible for hospital, tests, etc.

Co-pay is the amount you pay to see the doctor - or for a prescription. The insurance pays the balance. Often the insurer has negoitated a rate less than that someone would pay who does not have insurance.

Co-insurance is the amount you contribute toward the cost of the insurance. Often it is 25/75 or perhaps 100% employee coverage paid by the employer and the employee pays for any dependent coverage.

These are the terms as they are used in private insurance - probably the same for Medicare.

[lizbud]

SS and Medicare/Medicade are BROKE. I contracted to the IT em that supported PA Medicade. Oy.....

Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.


"Progress". Huh. Wait till YOU are on it I reckon. I will NEVER be.

No SS for you huh? Did you accept to stimulus money given out last spring?
Just curious.