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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah View Post

    Zara: What you heard about all the Americans unable to afford care is absolutely right. We have no hope. Our government only helps those under certain circumstances. Many of us are praying we don't have a catastrophic illness for more reasons than one.
    You see, to me that just seems so sad. Private doctors are so expensive here too, and if the NHS were not here, so many British people would be the same. What struck me most about the article is that committees refuse to give the idea a second thought because it is different, and therefore 'bad', even though it seems it could benefit so many people who have a right to be cared for, should they become ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Z View Post
    You see, to me that just seems so sad. Private doctors are so expensive here too, and if the NHS were not here, so many British people would be the same. What struck me most about the article is that committees refuse to give the idea a second thought because it is different, and therefore 'bad', even though it seems it could benefit so many people who have a right to be cared for, should they become ill.
    It is very sad. I think we probably have no idea how bad it really is in this country.

    I think many people are picking apart our president and the healthcare reform issue. I know that all people won't agree with everything he wants to do.
    Some Americans are in such dire straits with lack of healthcare, almost any relief is better than what they already have, or don't have.

    I want to give him a chance to see what he comes up with and not listen to all I hear every day from his critics. I truly hope we can see some help coming soon.


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    If the plan being discussed in the hallowed halls of Congress was merely meant to assist people who need help, I doubt many would have any issues with it.

    The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.
    Could you tell me why this would be a monstrosity?

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    No, quite honestly, because at 1300 pages and climbing, most of the representatives can't even explain what's in the bill.

    To paraphrase one of the legislators who will vote on the proposals if and when they ever come out of committee, it would take too much time to read, so why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    No, quite honestly, because at 1300 pages and climbing, most of the representatives can't even explain what's in the bill.

    To paraphrase one of the legislators who will vote on the proposals if and when they ever come out of committee, it would take too much time to read, so why bother?
    Pretty darn sad state of affairs - don't ya' think??

    They finally pull out one of the issues that has been swept under the rug with the hopes of some kind of resolution finally being addressed, and the powers that be that might be able to get the ball rolling, all stick their heads in the sand...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post

    The monstrosity being considered, however, is not assistance to those who need it. It is a complete takeover of health care by the government.


    The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.

    I have heard about the changes that brought about Social Security and
    Medicare were resisted by many people initially. The world did not stop
    turning & we progressed as a society.
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    The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.
    We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

    Okey, dokey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    The change proposed is not a takeover, it's a makeover. Big difference.

    I have heard about the changes that brought about Social Security and
    Medicare were resisted by many people initially. The world did not stop
    turning & we progressed as a society.
    SS and Medicare/Medicade are BROKE. I contracted to the IT em that supported PA Medicade. Oy.....

    Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.


    "Progress". Huh. Wait till YOU are on it I reckon. I will NEVER be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post

    Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.

    You mean you can't figure out how I feel, based on what I had to say about Medicare?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    You mean you can't figure out how I feel, based on what I had to say about Medicare?????

    From one Medicare "customer" to another, what don't you like about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    SS and Medicare/Medicade are BROKE. I contracted to the IT em that supported PA Medicade. Oy.....

    Social Security... Ask anybody who is on it how good it is.


    "Progress". Huh. Wait till YOU are on it I reckon. I will NEVER be.

    No SS for you huh? Did you accept to stimulus money given out last spring?
    Just curious.
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  14. One of the best chuckles in this was Obama having to assure veterans that they will not lose their government run healthcare!

    Again I say...good enough for the military ought to be good enough for the rest of us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    No SS for you huh? Did you accept to stimulus money given out last spring?
    Just curious.
    The government got the money from "somewhere" to send out stimulus checks. By the time Puck is ready to collect his SS checks

    there won't be any money left to collect

    SS will have filed for bankruptcy


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    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
    Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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