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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The 3 Rules,

    Pain is Temporary.

    Bones Heal.

    And yes.

    Chicks Dig Scars.

    Now remind me what movie thats from?
    And I couldn't answer that in a million years, I just remember the part about the scars!
    The secret of life is nothing at all
    -faith hill

    Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all -
    Together we stand
    Divided we fall.

    I laugh, therefore? I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    And I couldn't answer that in a million years, I just remember the part about the scars!
    I just googled "chicks dig scars", and "The Replacements" is what was returned, but that aint the movie I remember.

    Edit!!! The 3 rules are from a Simpsons episode!

    It may have been a Married With Children episode, but Im pretty sure it was from homer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Associated Press
    Gun-loving pastor to his flock: Piece be with you
    By DYLAN T. LOVAN, Associated Press Writer
    Thu Jun 4, 5:50 pm ET


    LOUISVILLE, Ky. – A Kentucky pastor is inviting his flock to bring guns to church to celebrate the Fourth of July and the Second Amendment.

    New Bethel Church is welcoming "responsible handgun owners" to wear their firearms inside the church June 27, a Saturday. An ad says there will be a handgun raffle, patriotic music and information on gun safety.

    "We're just going to celebrate the upcoming theme of the birth of our nation," said pastor Ken Pagano. "And we're not ashamed to say that there was a strong belief in God and firearms — without that this country wouldn't be here."

    The guns must be unloaded and private security will check visitors at the door, Pagano said.

    He said recent church shootings, including the killing Sunday of a late-term abortion provider in Kansas, which he condemned, highlight the need to promote safe gun ownership. The New Bethel Church event was planned months before Dr. George Tiller was shot to death in a Wichita church.

    Kentucky allows residents to openly carry guns in public with some restrictions. Gun owners carrying concealed weapons must have state-issued permits and can't take them to schools, jails or bars, among other exceptions.

    Pagano's Protestant church, which attracts up to 150 people to Sunday services, is a member of the Assemblies of God. The former Marine and handgun instructor said he expected some backlash, but has heard only a "little bit" of criticism of the gun event.

    John Phillips, an Arkansas pastor who was shot twice while leading a service at his former church in 1986, said a house of worship is no place for firearms.

    "A church is designated as a safe haven, it's a place of worship," said Phillips, who was shot by a church member's relative for an unknown reason and still has a bullet lodged in his spine. "It is unconscionable to me to think that a church would be a place that you would even want to bring a weapon."

    Phillips spoke out against a bill before the Arkansas General Assembly that would have permitted the carrying of guns in that state's churches. The bill failed in February.

    Pagano, 50, said some members of his church were concerned that President Obama's administration could restrict gun ownership, and they supported the plan for the event when Pagano asked their opinion.

    Marian McClure Taylor, executive director of the Kentucky Council of Churches, an umbrella organization for 11 Christian denominations in Kentucky, said Christian churches are promoters of peace, but "most allow for arms to be taken up under certain conditions."

    Taylor said Pagano assured her the event would focus on promoting responsible gun ownership and any proceeds would go to charity.

    "Those two commitments are consistent with the high value the Assemblies of God churches place on human life," she said in an e-mail message.

    Pagano is encouraging church members to bring a canned good and a friend to the event. He said guns must be unloaded for insurance purposes and safety reasons.

    He said the point was not to mix worship with guns, though he may reference some passages from the Bible.

    "Firearms can be evil and they can be useful," he said. "We're just trying to promote responsible gun ownership and gun safety."
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    I have been a Gun owner/collector for years and I believe that church and Guns do not mix. The intended purpose to encourage "responsible Gun ownership" is where I have the biggest problem. To be a responsible gun owner you have to be responsible. You need only to drive on our highways to know that responsible drivers are hard to find. Responsible Gun ownership would even be worst. The pastor is saying the guns must be unloaded before bringing them in the church. In my experience there is NO unloaded gun. I have seen to many accidental shootings with unloaded guns by supposed responsible gun owners. The problem with people and guns is people.

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    That is why EVERY FIREARM IS TO BE TREATED AS IF IT IS LOADED, no exceptions EVER!

    I watched a 6 or 7 year old refuse to take a firearm from his dad because the dad didnt clear the weapon first, training does work. That kid shot better then my friends dad that day.
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    Since the House bill for HCR passed, why cant we have a bill passed that requires citizens to not only be responsible for their health but their personal safety as well?
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    Gun Free Zones are Victim Only Zones.

    Time to Put An End to Army Bases as Gun-Free Zones


    It is hard to believe that we don't trust soldiers with guns on an army base when we trust these very same men in Iraq and Afghanistan.



    Shouldn't an army base be the last place where a terrorist should be able to shoot at people uninterrupted for 10 minutes? After all, an army base is filled with soldiers who carry guns, right? Unfortunately, that is not the case. Beginning in March 1993, under the Clinton administration, the army forbids military personnel from carrying their own personal firearms and mandates that "a credible and specific threat against [Department of the Army] personnel [exist] in that region" before military personnel "may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection." Indeed, most military bases have relatively few military police as they are in heavy demand to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The unarmed soldiers could do little more than cower as Major Nidal Malik Hasan stood on a desk and shot down into the cubicles in which his victims were trapped. Some behaved heroically, such as private first class Marquest Smith who repeatedly risked his life removing five soldiers and a civilian from the carnage. But, being unarmed, these soldiers were unable to stop Hasan's attack.

    The wife of one of the soldiers shot at Ft. Hood understood this all too well. Mandy Foster's husband had been shot but was fortunate enough not to be seriously injured. In an interview on CNN on Monday night, Mrs. Foster was asked by anchor John Roberts how she felt about her husband "still scheduled for deployment in January" to Afghanistan. Ms. Foster responded: "At least he's safe there and he can fire back, right?" -- It is hard to believe that we don't trust soldiers with guns on an army base when we trust these very same men in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, most of CNN's listeners probably didn't understand the rules that Ms. Foster was referring to.

    The law-abiding, not the criminals, are the ones who obey the ban on guns. Instead of making areas safe for victims, the bans make it safe for the criminal. Hasan not only violated the army's ban on carrying a gun, he also apparently violated the rules that require soldiers to register privately owned guns at the post.

    Research shows that allowing individuals to defend themselves dramatically reduces the rates of multiple victim public shootings. Even if attacks still occur, having civilians with permitted concealed handguns limits the damage. A major factor in determining how many people are harmed by these killers is the amount of time that elapses between when the attack starts and someone is able to arrive on the scene with a gun. Ten minutes must have seemed like an eternity to those trapped in the attack at Ft. Hood. All the multiple victim public shootings in the U.S. -- in which more than three people have been killed -- have all occurred in places where concealed handguns have been banned.

    For several days now, some in the media and various gun control groups have focused on a so-called "cop killer" gun that Hasan used. The five-seven is a conventional semi-automatic pistol. In fact, the bullets that it fires are relatively small, only being in the .22 caliber class. Unlike rifles, even higher caliber handguns don't fire publicly available ammunition at sufficient velocity to penetrate a police officer's vest. There is a special type of handgun ammunition that can penetrate some types of body armor, but under federal law it is not legal to manufacture or import that ammunition for sale to the public.

    For the safety of our soldiers and citizens, we hope that this simple fact about the Ft. Hood attack and the role that gun-free zones played in allowing yet another multiple victim public shooting becomes part of the news coverage itself. The political debate about guns would be quite different if even once in a while a news story clearly explained that there has been another multiple victim public shooting in a gun-free zone.

    John R. Lott, Jr. is a FoxNews.com contributor. He is an economist and author of "More Guns, Less Crime."
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