A Firearm in Every Home.

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It has nothing to do with culture, and it is not an issue. It's common sense. Anyones opinion that is different from your own doesn't make it an 'issue' you know.

Hardly an apology, you are still insulting me, if anything it's worse, insulting a whole culture. Talk about categorizing.

Try to keep a stiff upper lip.

So the USA doesnt have common sense? Who is insulting who?

http://www.nysun.com/national/surpri...uicides/80978/

This link points out that a 55 percent of gunshot deaths is suicide.

There are several links that point out that a good percentage of these
are teenagers. Unfortunately we are seeing a trend where those
suicidal people are taking others with them.

Thanks for the link. I think the CDC has all of the 2005 numbers posted, this gives me a starting point.

I have a wierd obsesion with statistics.

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Try to keep a stiff upper lip.

So the USA doesnt have common sense? Who is insulting who?

Stiff upper lip? What's that got to do with anything? Unless you are just going by the stereotype of British people, which again is fairly insulting.

Did I say the USA had no common sense? No. I am only saying that it's normal for people, in the UK AND outside the UK to feel threatened, even the slightest bit, about guns and the possibility that killers could be carrying a gun legally or how accidents are likely to happen, especially with children knowing how to use them. I was in no way trying to offend the USA with my comment.

You stated directly that it was a cultural issue and that is not fair. It's categorizing and judging people.

Good point about the suicide thing kokopup, I didn't think of that.

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Stiff upper lip? What's that got to do with anything? Unless you are just going by the stereotype of British people, which again is fairly insulting.

Sorry there was no Monty Python smiley.

Did I say the USA had no common sense? No. I am only saying that it's normal for people, in the UK AND outside the UK to feel threatened, even the slightest bit, about guns and the possibility that killers could be carrying a gun legally or how accidents are likely to happen, especially with children knowing how to use them. I was in no way trying to offend the USA with my comment.

You stated directly that it was a cultural issue and that is not fair. It's categorizing and judging people.

The Swiss dont seem to have a big firearm problem, and they keep full auto firearms in their homes, so what would you call it if it isnt a cultural issue?

If you think the UK and other countries with severe restrictions on firearms are following common sense, the obvious ass/ump/tion is you think the USA doesnt have common sense.

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Sorry there was no Monty Python smiley.



The Swiss dont seem to have a big firearm problem, and they keep full auto firearms in their homes, so what would you call it if it isnt a cultural issue?

If you think the UK and other countries with severe restrictions on firearms are following common sense, the obvious ass/ump/tion is you think the USA doesnt have common sense.

A difference of culture. The word issue is not needed, it's implying something is wrong with that country, and the people in that country, and thats not fair.

I didn't say countries with servere restrictions followed common sense, I said feeling threatened is, it's a normal reaction. Thats all I meant by that comment.

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A difference of culture. The word issue is not needed, it's implying something is wrong with that country, and the people in that country, and thats not fair.

I didn't say countries with servere restrictions followed common sense, I said feeling threatened is, it's a normal reaction. Thats all I meant by that comment.

Semantics, another a cultural issue.

We could even break it down state by state in the USA. People in CA, and NY are going to have more issues with legal gun owners the people who live in AK or MT.

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Semantics, another a cultural issue.

We could even break it down state by state in the USA. People in CA, and NY are going to have more issues with legal gun owners the people who live in AK or MT.

Reading between the lines is not an issue, and again it's not something you can place to the whole culture. I write and read a lot, sometimes you have to read between the lines of things. Whats so wrong with trying to get the whole meaning behind something anyway?

Like I said, I have no idea about these states in America and the gun crime and so on, so saying something about them means nothing to me.

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Reading between the lines is not an issue, and again it's not something you can place to the whole culture. I write and read a lot, sometimes you have to read between the lines of things. Whats so wrong with trying to get the whole meaning behind something anyway?

Like I said, I have no idea about these states in America and the gun crime and so on, so saying something about them means nothing to me.

I try not to leave anything between the lines on the issue of firearms.

So lets put it this way. A majority of Californians and New Yorkers, have the same issues people from the UK have relating to firearms. I could have used the word paranoia instead of issue. I think we can both agree issue is the better choice. If you want to write between and read between the lines thats your choice.

At least the UK isnt trying to make paintball and airsoft illegal like the Germans.

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Do you think they had firearms training?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...71KRgD982B3LG0

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Do you think they had firearms training?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...71KRgD982B3LG0

No.

Im actualy suprised you didnt bring up the cops who shot a 15 year old for pointing a toy gun at them.

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you have to read between the lines of things.

And if you are saying that I am searching for the meaning behind your words and so on, then surely you are leaving things between the lines...

Not on this subject this serious.

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Not on this subject this serious.

Note the word sometimes in my post.... 'sometimes you have to read between the lines of things'

Did I say specifically this thread? No. I meant in general.

I am guessing you are ignoring my direct questions in my previous post.

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Note the word sometimes in my post.... 'sometimes you have to read between the lines of things'

Did I say specifically this thread? No. I meant in general.

I am guessing you are ignoring my direct questions in my previous post.

Reading between the lines leads to problems and writing between the lines leads to more problems but includes plausable deniability.

The emo question? Take another look at the definition for Paranoid Schizophrenia and look into the emo lifestyle, they're pretty similar.

You asked alot of rhetorical questions in your posts, so if you put all my unanswerred questions in one post I will address them.

But this one...

So theft justifies murder in your opinion?

When it means watching your family starve because someone with a machete took all of your supplies, yes I do.

I feel the term issue is very fitting, I did not mean it as an insult in anyway.

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Whisk_Luva, I would like to thank you for taking this as a serius discussion, something that cant be said for most of the anti's that participated in this thread.

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Reading between the lines leads to problems and writing between the lines leads to more problems but includes plausable deniability.

The emo question? Take another look at the definition for Paranoid Schizophrenia and look into the emo lifestyle, they're pretty similar.

You asked alot of rhetorical questions in your posts, so if you put all my unanswerred questions in one post I will address them.

When it means watching your family starve because someone with a machete took all of your supplies, yes I do.

I feel the term issue is very fitting, I did not mean it as an insult in anyway.

Well I look for the hidden meanings in things and I don't see the issue with it. Obvously, I don't intend to write leaving things hidden unless it is a poem or something, so obvously in this kind of topic I wouldn't. In this thread I am just trying to get the full meanings behind what is said.

Ok, I am kind of lost with the whole emo thing, but oh well.

If you watch someone starve because of a use of a weapon, I do not think they would want to use one themselves.

Anyway, the direct question I meant were:

You could of just used the word differences. That is not as insulting. The word 'issue' is implying paranioia anyway. So, are you implying that all all cultures where people are threatened by guns are inferior?
Also if you are saying everyone should carry a gun for defense and so on, doesn't that mean if every carried a nuclear weapon everyone else should? Can you imagine the problems that would cause? Where do you draw the line? Because going by one of your main arguements, that situation would be ok.