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    This discussion was on Dr. Phil yesterday and this is what they said.. She had all her kids this way. She was implanted with SIX each time and most of the time she only had 1 baby, once she had twins. This time she was implanted with 8 and when the doctor realized she had 8 babies in there, selective reduction should have been done..

    However, they were mostly angry and blamed the doctor for ever implanting her anyway given that she already had 6, no job, no income or means of support and seems to have mental problems. Just lookimng at her income level, he should have refused. Just looking at the fact that she already have 6, he should have refused.

    Someone from the Dr. Phil show went into the home with a camera and they already have kids stacked everywhere in there. There is NO room in that house for more kids.. Dr Phil said one thing she never considered was that they could take all those kids away from her and that is what he thinks needs to be done.. I agree.. Forget the cost of taking cost of all of them for a minute.. How many people is it going to take to feed those babies in one day, to change the diapers, to bathe them. How does she plan to keep up with the laundry? it will take more than 2 people, that is for sure!

    I think they said she already has 2 special need kids at home and they expect that several of these will be special needs. She just will not be able to do it without tons of help. Who does she think is going to help?

    Special Needs Pets just leave bigger imprints on your heart!

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    When it is all said and done...............my heart just breaks for the 14 children she has had.

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    The Whittier Daily News website has some pictures of the inside of the house. Unreal!! I believe that's where I saw them--it might be a link I accessed from there. Also, pictures of her awhile back, looking like a totally different person. I had originally thought she had her lips done but now I think it's more than that.

    I also feel sorry for those poor kids. How can she pretend to be such a great mother when she seems to have herself as the number one priority? She angers me to no end!!


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    This letter to the editor in the Calgary Sun today (Feb 12) struck a chord. I think this sums it up, though it was about the 60 year old here who had twins. (She also has a large, supportive extended family which includes a husband and a sibling or two).

    PREGNANCIES SEEM SELFISH

    Re: Give new mom a break, Martin Hudson, Feb. 8. While I do agree with the spirit of the column and am trying not to judge, I would never state an opinion on whether they are unfit or not. But there seems to be a running theme in all the reports; from both of these women there is a lot of "me" and "I wanted" and "I need." It seems these births are all about them and what they wanted but not what perhaps would be best for the child or children. A selfish theme of "I want" with these pregnancies does not bode well for their upbringing. Like kittens and puppies, babies are a temporary state and parents are actually supposed to be raising future adults, a state in which children spend the majority of their time on earth. If you know you will not be around for their adolescence or you are a single mother of 12 to 15 children and have no time at all, how it is in the child's best interest to be born or it is just because you "want" something? Selfishness may not be crazy but perhaps it is worse. If they were truly crazy they would not have been allowed to breed.

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    Dr. Phil's show for 2/12/2009 is titled "Octuplets Scandal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    This letter to the editor in the Calgary Sun today (Feb 12) struck a chord. I think this sums it up, though it was about the 60 year old here who had twins. (She also has a large, supportive extended family which includes a husband and a sibling or two).
    Couples today do not give the same respect that parenthood is due...
    When is anyone gonna bag on the father? I can guess it would have happened even is she didn't know the guy, but when is everyone going to make a beeline to his doorstep and look for accountability?

    Again,

    There are a few people are stupid, selfish and oh, so idiotic when it comes to 'making' babies.

    I go back to the woman in Cah Lee Fuh Nee ah that lost her three kids when a truck hit the car they were in. She goes to have three to replace the lost kids, by in-vitro and her life is complete again.

    I say BS and it shows that some people refuse to move on and live a normal life- This couple decides to get a replacement set of kids.

    Me? I'd be too heartbroken to even think about 'replacing' my children.


    It's all done, because they can do it and there is no respect for 'birthing' children anymore. In-vitro for the selfish, is just about status and some parents parade the kids around with the modifier- This is our little miracle!


    I can hardly wait until we can order 'Kustom Kids' and then watch the eff ups that will come from that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post

    I go back to the woman in Cah Lee Fuh Nee ah that lost her three kids when a truck hit the car they were in. She goes to have three to replace the lost kids, by in-vitro and her life is complete again.

    I say BS and it shows that some people refuse to move on and live a normal life- This couple decides to get a replacement set of kids.

    Me? I'd be too heartbroken to even think about 'replacing' my children.


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    I'm not comparing pets to kids here, but isn't this the same as many people do when they lose a furbaby? Somehow your life is very empty and lonely when you lose a beloved animal, just as a human's is when they lose a child, so you get another to fill the void. Saying that you're making a replacement is rather harsh. Some people want a child in their life to love, and tho the one they had is gone, there can be another, but never a replacement. No different than getting another dog, or cat or bunny - or whatever!

    Octomom didn't lose any - just added more to her already chaotic life.

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    Has anyone noticed her hands? In the video you can see her perfect nails - how does one manage that taking care of 6 kids? How does one afford the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    When is anyone gonna bag on the father? I can guess it would have happened even is she didn't know the guy, but when is everyone going to make a beeline to his doorstep and look for accountability?
    EXCELLENT, Richard.
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    Death thought about it.
    CATS, he said eventually. CATS ARE NICE.

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    I go back to the woman in Cah Lee Fuh Nee ah that lost her three kids when a truck hit the car they were in. She goes to have three to replace the lost kids, by in-vitro and her life is complete again.

    I say BS and it shows that some people refuse to move on and live a normal life- This couple decides to get a replacement set of kids.

    Me? I'd be too heartbroken to even think about 'replacing' my children.
    I become so angry every time you MISREPRESENT this situation.

    This couple had three children. The children were killed in a tragic accident. The mother was driving -- stopped on an exit ramp when she was rear-ended by a semi traveling at a high rate of speed.

    The children were all killed.

    Because of her age, remaining childbearing years and other medical consideration she, her husband and her doctors chose invitro.

    Because of her age three embryos were implanted in the hopes of one healthy child. All three "took" and she was delivered of triplets.

    They very much wanted to be parents. I do not think it was a "miracle" but rather a private decision and a medical outcome.

    I do not know how I would feel or what I would do if my three children were killed and neither do you RICHARD. You do not know you would be "too heartbroken" to think of having more children.

    And I think your statement that they should "move on and live a normal life" and to suggest they were after "replacement children" is disgusting.

    However, very typical that you speak of "her" and what "she" did wrong immediately after complaining about people not holding fathers responsible.

    If you actually read anything about this story you would know how often she and her husband have spoken of that their lives will never be the same and will always ache for the loss of the three children. But of course, you know better than they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I become so angry every time you MISREPRESENT this situation.

    This couple had three children. The children were killed in a tragic accident. The mother was driving -- stopped on an exit ramp when she was rear-ended by a semi traveling at a high rate of speed.

    The children were all killed.

    Because of her age, remaining childbearing years and other medical consideration she, her husband and her doctors chose invitro.

    Because of her age three embryos were implanted in the hopes of one healthy child. All three "took" and she was delivered of triplets.

    They very much wanted to be parents. I do not think it was a "miracle" but rather a private decision and a medical outcome.

    I do not know how I would feel or what I would do if my three children were killed and neither do you RICHARD. You do not know you would be "too heartbroken" to think of having more children.

    And I think your statement that they should "move on and live a normal life" and to suggest they were after "replacement children" is disgusting.

    However, very typical that you speak of "her" and what "she" did wrong immediately after complaining about people not holding fathers responsible.

    If you actually read anything about this story you would know how often she and her husband have spoken of that their lives will never be the same and will always ache for the loss of the three children. But of course, you know better than they do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    And this statement...In-vitro is for the selfish...is the second most offensive thing you wrote.

    Petty, jealous, sour, and yes...selfish.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    In-vitro for the selfish, is just about status and some parents parade the kids around with the modifier- This is our little miracle!
    And this statement...In-vitro is for the selfish...is the second most offensive thing you wrote.

    Petty, jealous, sour, and yes...selfish.

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