Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

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Gosh...is THAT passive aggressive.

No. Its two new behaviours, projecting and outright aggression.

[RICHARD]

No. Its two new behaviours, projecting and outright aggression.

Don't fall into the "I am an amateur psychologist and this is what is the matter with YOU!" routine.



I am crazy and I know it!

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Don't fall into the "I am an amateur psychologist and this is what is the matter with YOU!" routine.



I am crazy and I know it!

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

[DJFyrewolf36]

I feel bad posting when I KNOW I don't have anything relevant to add to the topic but I just had to say lurking here is quite entertaining.

I love the DH sometimes

[RICHARD]

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

Love it!



DJ,
Don't be going serious on us, O.K?

[Medusa]

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

Now that's funny!

And, Richard, you still did not address what I asked because you were on your pulpit. Seeing that you may have lost your way since the question was asked so far back, I asked why you felt the necessity to "shout" by replying in large bold fonts. I'm not vision impaired either.

I also asked if you see the inequity of this "woman who lives in a shoe" getting donations from private corporations, asking for a couple of mil for her story, possibly getting a reality show, etc. all because she's obsessed w/child bearing (according to her parents) and was able to find an unethical doctor who would comply w/her wishes, while I and others like me are struggling to pay my monthly premium to an insurance company who has turned me down for necessary surgery on my jaw. We're talking about ethics and fairness, Richard, not about Big Brother.

FWIW, I believe that human females are not meant to have litters; animals are. Women are not built for it; animals are and even they have problems w/multiple births sometimes. Now consider that she has six other children to care for and ask yourself if it's reasonable or ethical to add more children to the mix. We PTers struggle w/our consciences whenever we take in a new pet because we know that it's a lifelong commitment and one that we had better be able to afford. It appears that she didn't even give this situation that much thought or consideration and these are human beings we're talking about!

[pomtzu]

Everytime I hear something else about this woman, I can't help but think of something I read here on PT just about every day. It's in caseysmom's siggy - "Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die."
If this person is so freakin obsessed with children, she could easily have kept the population down, simply by adopting or fostering. But I suppose that wouldn't have been an option for her, since adopting costs money, and it's looking more every day that she is at the very far end of that equation.

And as far as the book deals, movie deals, interviews, talk shows, etc, etc, etc,.... I hope and pray that all these materialize and she makes big bucks, and in doing so, can't qualify for so much as one thin dime in assistance!

[pomtzu]

We all support all the other people on state and government aid, what is a few more?

We do????? I thought I made myself quite clear on my views of illegals, deadbeats, and moochers who get freebies, while the folks that are entitled to assistance, go begging!

Obviously you are a selective reader!!!

[Grace]

Everytime I hear something else about this woman, I can't help but think of something I read here on PT just about every day. It's in caseysmom's siggy - "Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die."
If this person is so freakin obsessed with children, she could easily have kept the population down, simply by adopting or fostering. But I suppose that wouldn't have been an option for her, since adopting costs money, and it's looking more every day that she is at the very far end of that equation.

And as far as the book deals, movie deals, interviews, talk shows, etc, etc, etc,.... I hope and pray that all these materialize and she makes big bucks, and in doing so, can't qualify for so much as one thin dime in assistance!

Wonderful post. Thanks, Ellie.

[sasvermont]

We cannot dictate how many children one wants or bring into this world. Not yet, anyway!

Do I think this woman will be a good mother? Who knows at this point. She will need a team of people to help with taking care of the infants.

I just read (not necessarily true) on the INTERNET news (Goggle) web site, that she has hope in getting $2,000,000 in TV, book deals. I think they should make her payoff her hospital bill straight off, then set up trust funds for the dozen + kids.

Does anyone know what religion she affiliates herself with, if any?

I, too, think she needs a good deal of mental health counseling.

FYI:
Several factors contribute to the development of a multiple pregnancy:

Heredity: A history of multiple births on a woman's side of the family increases her chances of having a multiple pregnancy.

Race: Women of African descent are the most likely to have multiple pregnancies.

Number of prior pregnancies: Having more than one previous pregnancy, especially a multiple pregnancy, increases the chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

Delayed childbearing: Older women who get pregnant are more likely to have multiples.

Infertility treatment: Fertility drugs, which stimulate the ovaries to release multiple eggs, or assisted reproductive technology (ART), which transfers multiple embryos into the womb (such as in vitro fertilization, or IVF), greatly increase a woman's chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

It's the last two factors that have been on the rise in the last couple of decades and are probably responsible for the increase in multiple births.


I guess I would not care much about this if I thought she and her parents could afford to keep these children healthy and alive. I DO resent that she is not paying for the delivery of these children, as far as I know. I heard an early report that the initial cost of each child to be in intensive care for the first few weeks would be at least $300,000 (each). You do the math.

I didn't read all the earlier posts, so please forgive me if I repeated what someone else has already posted.

One more time, I do not agree with her having all these children, but she did. Also, I suspect she medicated to increase the egg fertility, dropping way more egss than would have been implanted if she did the IVF routine. I just cannot imagine any doctor implanting that many embryos.

[RICHARD]

We do????? I thought I made myself quite clear on my views of illegals, deadbeats, and moochers who get freebies, while the folks that are entitled to assistance, go begging!

Obviously you are a selective reader!!!

NO I read your post.

I have a very wonderful view on illegals-My dad was once an illegal, got his green card and was able to finally get off his arse and become a naturalized citizen.

The most wonderful story about his quest to become a citizen of the U.S. was the verbal test he was given before the ceremony.

HE was asked about the three branches of government and in his haste to answer and nervousness, he said, "The Army, Navy and Marines!"

The woman saw he was nervous and said to him, "That's good enough for me!"

So the INS/ICE thought enough of some dumb, old Mexican green card holder to let him become a citizen.

Sometimes we toss out the jewels before we know how valuable they are to us.

P.S. My dad was caught, tossed into the jail on Terminal Island near Lost Angeles, deported and came back under the law.

Funny, I always wonder how a jailbird became my hero!

[RICHARD]

Now that's funny!

And, Richard, you still did not address what I asked because you were on your pulpit. Seeing that you may have lost your way since the question was asked so far back, I asked why you felt the necessity to "shout" by replying in large bold fonts. I'm not vision impaired either.

Because, I felt like it?

If you check around the feet of any 'preacher' you'll find his shoes are as dirty as the people that will listen.

I try not to take things too seriously-little things like san serif, bold or italics aren't bugaboos to me.

I often post messages that people ignore, I got it out of my system on a thread that won't change anyone's mind, the world or the way things run on the planet.

IT's off my chest and I apologize if it fell on anyone's toes.

[pomtzu]

NO I read your post.

I have a very wonderful view on illegals-My dad was once an illegal, got his green card and was able to finally get off his arse and become a naturalized citizen.

The most wonderful story about his quest to become a citizen of the U.S. was the verbal test he was given before the ceremony.

HE was asked about the three branches of government and in his haste to answer and nervousness, he said, "The Army, Navy and Marines!"

The woman saw he was nervous and said to him, "That's good enough for me!"

So the INS/ICE thought enough of some dumb, old Mexican green card holder to let him become a citizen.

Sometimes we toss out the jewels before we know how valuable they are to us.

P.S. My dad was caught, tossed into the jail on Terminal Island near Lost Angeles, deported and came back under the law.

Funny, I always wonder how a jailbird became my hero!

And I'm referring to the illegals who choose to stay illegals and NOT get off their "arse" as your father did!!! Therein lies a big difference - and those are the ones I have issues with - along with the deadbeats and moochers that I think I may have mentioned as well. At my age - I'm sure I'll not live long enough to see much improvement in the way the tax dollar is given away so freely to some, yet not for others.

And you avoided any comment on my question/statement on "We do"??? Maybe YOU do, but I think the majority would say "We don't"!!!

[Medusa]

Because, I felt like it?

If you check around the feet of any 'preacher' you'll find his shoes are as dirty as the people that will listen.

I try not to take things too seriously-little things like san serif, bold or italics aren't bugaboos to me.

I often post messages that people ignore, I got it out of my system on a thread that won't change anyone's mind, the world or the way things run on the planet.

IT's off my chest and I apologize if it fell on anyone's toes.

Hmmm, yet you commented when I replied to your quote, saying that you were deaf now because it was in bold print. Do I detect a double standard here? Seems to me that lately you're always saying things because you feel like, everyone else's feelings be damned.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Kaiser is a non profit hospital that is a HMO.

If she can afford the premiums, it won't cost anyone anything-except the people in the plan..

Well...well...well... on the radio this morning the daily report on this woman mentioned she is on MediCal (the state program of medical care for the indigent)! So I guess it IS costing something to other than "the people in the plan..."

Of course, this was followed by a report on California having the worst credit rating of the 50 states.

Again, my issue is abuse of finite resources.