Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

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Don't fall into the "I am an amateur psychologist and this is what is the matter with YOU!" routine.



I am crazy and I know it!

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

[DJFyrewolf36]

I feel bad posting when I KNOW I don't have anything relevant to add to the topic but I just had to say lurking here is quite entertaining.

I love the DH sometimes

[RICHARD]

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

Love it!



DJ,
Don't be going serious on us, O.K?

[Medusa]

I stayed in a Holliday Inn last night.

Now that's funny!

And, Richard, you still did not address what I asked because you were on your pulpit. Seeing that you may have lost your way since the question was asked so far back, I asked why you felt the necessity to "shout" by replying in large bold fonts. I'm not vision impaired either.

I also asked if you see the inequity of this "woman who lives in a shoe" getting donations from private corporations, asking for a couple of mil for her story, possibly getting a reality show, etc. all because she's obsessed w/child bearing (according to her parents) and was able to find an unethical doctor who would comply w/her wishes, while I and others like me are struggling to pay my monthly premium to an insurance company who has turned me down for necessary surgery on my jaw. We're talking about ethics and fairness, Richard, not about Big Brother.

FWIW, I believe that human females are not meant to have litters; animals are. Women are not built for it; animals are and even they have problems w/multiple births sometimes. Now consider that she has six other children to care for and ask yourself if it's reasonable or ethical to add more children to the mix. We PTers struggle w/our consciences whenever we take in a new pet because we know that it's a lifelong commitment and one that we had better be able to afford. It appears that she didn't even give this situation that much thought or consideration and these are human beings we're talking about!

[pomtzu]

Everytime I hear something else about this woman, I can't help but think of something I read here on PT just about every day. It's in caseysmom's siggy - "Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die."
If this person is so freakin obsessed with children, she could easily have kept the population down, simply by adopting or fostering. But I suppose that wouldn't have been an option for her, since adopting costs money, and it's looking more every day that she is at the very far end of that equation.

And as far as the book deals, movie deals, interviews, talk shows, etc, etc, etc,.... I hope and pray that all these materialize and she makes big bucks, and in doing so, can't qualify for so much as one thin dime in assistance!

[Grace]

Everytime I hear something else about this woman, I can't help but think of something I read here on PT just about every day. It's in caseysmom's siggy - "Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die."
If this person is so freakin obsessed with children, she could easily have kept the population down, simply by adopting or fostering. But I suppose that wouldn't have been an option for her, since adopting costs money, and it's looking more every day that she is at the very far end of that equation.

And as far as the book deals, movie deals, interviews, talk shows, etc, etc, etc,.... I hope and pray that all these materialize and she makes big bucks, and in doing so, can't qualify for so much as one thin dime in assistance!

Wonderful post. Thanks, Ellie.

[RICHARD]

Now that's funny!

And, Richard, you still did not address what I asked because you were on your pulpit. Seeing that you may have lost your way since the question was asked so far back, I asked why you felt the necessity to "shout" by replying in large bold fonts. I'm not vision impaired either.

Because, I felt like it?

If you check around the feet of any 'preacher' you'll find his shoes are as dirty as the people that will listen.

I try not to take things too seriously-little things like san serif, bold or italics aren't bugaboos to me.

I often post messages that people ignore, I got it out of my system on a thread that won't change anyone's mind, the world or the way things run on the planet.

IT's off my chest and I apologize if it fell on anyone's toes.

[Medusa]

Because, I felt like it?

If you check around the feet of any 'preacher' you'll find his shoes are as dirty as the people that will listen.

I try not to take things too seriously-little things like san serif, bold or italics aren't bugaboos to me.

I often post messages that people ignore, I got it out of my system on a thread that won't change anyone's mind, the world or the way things run on the planet.

IT's off my chest and I apologize if it fell on anyone's toes.

Hmmm, yet you commented when I replied to your quote, saying that you were deaf now because it was in bold print. Do I detect a double standard here? Seems to me that lately you're always saying things because you feel like, everyone else's feelings be damned.

[cassiesmom]

this woman obsessed w/ child bearing (according to her parents)

Just a question, can this be considered a psychological obsession? Is there a diagnosis for an unreasonable obsession with pregnancy and birth? Because maybe that would have been a reasonable argument for the physicians to not implant all eight.

Consider that she has six other children to care for and ask yourself if it's reasonable or ethical to add more children to the mix.

Question again. If it is unreasonable or unethical for this woman with six children to bear eight more - which I definitely think it is, for reasons that have been well articulated elsewhere in this thread - what can be done about it? And whose responsibility is it - the medical community, the legal system, etc.? It is not biophysically responsible for this woman to have borne eight children at once. A bad decision on the doctor's part to allow the treatment to go forward. It is not fiscally responsible because all of the babies will incur massive medical bills that the mother is obviously not able to pay more than a minuscule portion of. They may very well have long-term complications of prematurity. None of the 14 will get the share of their mother's attention that they deserve. And there are other women in this world dealing with infertility.

[RICHARD]

Just a question, can this be considered a psychological obsession? Is there a diagnosis for an unreasonable obsession with pregnancy and birth? Because maybe that would have been a reasonable argument for the physicians to not implant all eight.


Question again. If it is unreasonable or unethical for this woman with six children to bear eight more - which I definitely think it is, for reasons that have been well articulated elsewhere in this thread - what can be done about it?

Yes, the grandma talked about it this afternoon, the mom was an only child and had problems with ther being an OC.

IF she had was implanted here in the U.S. 'ethically' there is a cutoff to the number of embryos that can be implanted., I am not familiar with what they would do to the clinic or physician. This may bring in new standards to bear against U.S. physicians, but if she went out of country to have it done there is pretty much nothing that can be done to sanction the parties who did it.


Oh, I talked to my tax man and he said it was quite all right to ask that none of my taxes be paid out to support this woman....

As if that was possible.