Can somebody explain the most recent Israel/Palestine conflict?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Let's not forget that the Palestianians were there first, and had lived there for a long time. Palestine was divided up... I think, after the 6 days war in 1967, but Israel still wanted more! At the time they had even been given more than 50 %. Where was the Palestinians supposed to go?

Really Israel was there first. They were thrown out by the Romans in 70 AD. There are still ruins from their original buildings there just being found by archelogists.

[jennielynn1970]

Really Israel was there first. They were thrown out by the Romans in 70 AD. There are still ruins from their original buildings there just being found by archelogists.

People were there, not "Israelis".

People.

Israel did NOT exist before WWII.

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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces.
Really Israel was there first. They were thrown out by the Romans in 70 AD. There are still ruins from their original buildings there just being found by archelogists.

People were there, not "Israelis".

People.
Israel did NOT exist before WWII.

Jews were there, along with Palestinians. Jews have been in that area for centuries. Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls.
The name Israel derives from the name given to Jacob. The name Jew derives from Yehuda (Judah) one of the 12 sons of Jacob (Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Yehuda, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Yisachar, Zevulun, Yosef, Binyamin). So, the names Israel, Israeli or Jewish refer to people of the same origin.

The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham (ca. 1800 BCE). Thus, Jews have had continuous presence in the land of Israel for the past 3,300 years.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Really Israel was there first. They were thrown out by the Romans in 70 AD. There are still ruins from their original buildings there just being found by archelogists.

A slippery slope if you start relying on boundaries in 70 AD! Let's see...North America was inhabited by....

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A slippery slope if you start relying on boundaries in 70 AD! Let's see...North America was inhabited by....

Nobody.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Nobody.

Really?

About 14,000 years ago, humans crossed the Bering land bridge from Siberia to North America, most experts agree.

http://www.livescience.com/history/0....html#comments

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A slippery slope if you start relying on boundaries in 70 AD! Let's see...North America was inhabited by....

Really?



http://www.livescience.com/history/0....html#comments

OMG!!! You actually back up somthing you stated with some facts!!!

I will concede the point to you.

So should we give the continent back to the original settlers of the continent and move back to where ever the heck we came from?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Nobody.

My Native American kinfolk and I beg to differ with you on this!

QUOTE: So should we give the continent back to the original settlers of the continent and move back to where ever the heck we came from?
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Ok, but tell me which country those of us with mixed heritages should go back to? Besides, I did come from this country!

[Edwina's Secretary]

My Native American kinfolk and I beg to differ with you on this!

QUOTE: So should we give the continent back to the original settlers of the continent and move back to where ever the heck we came from?
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Ok, but tell me which country those of us with mixed heritages should go back to? Besides, I did come from this country!

That is exactly my point MOFF...

Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Really Israel was there first. They were thrown out by the Romans in 70 AD. There are still ruins from their original buildings there just being found by archelogists.]

If we start trying to establish borders in 2009 based on who lived where once upon a time...we are on a slippery slope.

Whose ancestors lived somewhere thousands of years ago just doesn't seem to me to be a good way to sort things out...without a whole bunch of people being displaced!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

That is exactly my point MOFF...



If we start trying to establish borders in 2009 based on who lived where once upon a time...we are on a slippery slope.

Whose ancestors lived somewhere thousands of years ago just doesn't seem to me to be a good way to sort things out...without a whole bunch of people being displaced!

I agree but that's exactly part of the problem. All three of the largest religions: Judiasim, Christianity and Muslims feel they own the land because of their ancestors and religions. People over there live their religion. To them it's not a pile of "crap" like some have stated here. They are willing to die for their beliefs and not as tolerant of other beliefs as we are here.