The world with lots of handguns in it!

[Grace]

A PSA for anybody afraid of people legally carrying a concealed firearm in stores, restaurants and, with few exceptions, other public places. Stay out of Alaska. Anybody who can legally own, and purchase a handgun can carry concealed here.

That doesn't bother me at all. I have several friends who have CPLs. They are law abiding citizens who have passed all the requirements in order to obtain a CPL.

It's the people carrying illegally who concern me.

[Edwina's Secretary]

That doesn't bother me at all. I have several friends who have CPLs. They are law abiding citizens who have passed all the requirements in order to obtain a CPL.

It's the people carrying illegally who concern me.

Here in Orange County the now-on-trial-for-corruption former sheriff gave out concealed weapon permits as political favors. The new sheriff is trying to review the permits and make sure they only go to people who need them and have proved they are qualified.

The Gun People are in an uproar. The entire editorial page in today's paper...the outrage!

So if you are in SoCal....you need to be careful shopping in Toys R Us AND worry about some of the people legally carrying concealed weapons. And be careful sleeping in your crib. Or sitting on your front porch. Or driving on the highway. They're everywhere.

[Grace]

Here in Orange County the now-on-trial-for-corruption former sheriff gave out concealed weapon permits as political favors. The new sheriff is trying to review the permits and make sure they only go to people who need them and have proved they are qualified.

The Gun People are in an uproar. The entire editorial page in today's paper...the outrage!

So if you are in SoCal....you need to be careful shopping in Toys R Us AND worry about some of the people legally carrying concealed weapons. And be careful sleeping in your crib. Or sitting on your front porch. Or driving on the highway. They're everywhere.

I'm not - in SoCal.

I have a husband who lives and dies by the 2nd Amendment. As I said, I have no problem with people having a gun. I do have problems with those who don't abide by the laws of their town, city, state, whatever.

In Michigan, you can get a CPL by taking a safety class, having a background and fingerprint check done by the Sheriff's Department. The CPL has to be renewed every 4 or 5 years.

My husband would like to move to Vermont. The gun laws there are almost nonexistent. In both Vermont and Alaska, one can carry concealed without a permit. I don't recall hearing of any horrible instances of gun violence occurring in either of those states.

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You know darn well I wasn't implying anyone actually drove into the store. Did you read the latest article about this incident? The guys pulled out handguns and ran down the store aisles shooting at one another. Imagine that one or more of those bullets strayed from the intended target and landed in the next aisle? Imagine again that there was a person in that aisle? Imagine once more that the person was hit by the stray bullet?

THAT is what I meant by drive-by victim. The innocent person, hit by a bullet, shot by some nutcase. It happens in Detroit frequently. I don't imagine that the 3 month old baby, asleep in his crib, had a gun under his pillow to shoot at the bad guys. And a 3 month old was killed not too long ago - just sleeping in his crib.

Nobody other then the shooters were hit in the Toys 4 Us fire fight. So unless more details have been released, it was not a drive by shooting, no matter how you meant it, as there where no other victims.

Could someone who lives near a Toys 4 Us store confirm the stores are posted as a "Gun Free Zone"?

So if you are in SoCal....you need to be careful shopping in Toys R Us AND worry about some of the people legally carrying concealed weapons. And be careful sleeping in your crib. Or sitting on your front porch. Or driving on the highway. They're everywhere.

Did I miss the story stating the late shooters had legal conceal carry permits, or are you just assuming they had them?

Could someone who resides in or around Riverside County CA post up about conceal carry law there?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Could someone who lives near a Toys 4 Us store confirm the stores are posted as a "Gun Free Zone"?

That has to be one of the SADDEST things I have ever read. A TOY STORE needs to be posted as a "Gun Free Zone."

I have never used this expression before....WHAT is this country coming to???

[Lady's Human]

When a business declares itself a gun free zone, it's declaring that the private property owned by the store is gun free, meaning no one can carry on the property.

[blue]

That has to be one of the SADDEST things I have ever read. A TOY STORE needs to be posted as a "Gun Free Zone."

I have never used this expression before....WHAT is this country coming to???

Since you have spent so long in Chitown Im not suprised you have never heard the term. You might also think of it as a Victim Only Zone, as legal gun owners are the only ones who would abide by that rule.

Some further explanations of Gun Free Zones here, here, here and here.

[Grace]

Nobody other then the shooters were hit in the Toys 4 Us fire fight. So unless more details have been released, it was not a drive by shooting, no matter how you meant it, as there where no other victims.

Good grief, are you as obtuse as you seem, or are you just nit picking?

I put my original comment about drive by shooting in italics. It was meant metaphorically.

[blue]

Good grief, are you as obtuse as you seem, or are you just nit picking?

I put my original comment about drive by shooting in italics. It was meant metaphorically.

Im simply tired and fed up with the BS drive by victim argument in non drive by incidents with or without italics.