The world with lots of handguns in it!

[blue]

In Chicago, maybe.

Why would you think this would be more likely to happen in Chicago?

*Edit*I emailed the city of Palm Desert, Calif for copies of their firearm laws to compare with Chicago's.

[DJFyrewolf36]

Why would you think this would be more likely to happen in Chicago?

*Edit*I emailed the city of Palm Desert, Calif for copies of their firearm laws to compare with Chicago's.

That would be a very interesting thing to see, I hope you get a reply!

[RICHARD]

The local press is reporting that it was a "personal" situation that led to the shooting. The local TV ran a clip of a "person of interest" being cuffed while leaning on the rear of a sheriff's cruiser.

She looks like she is Mexican and is yelling to someone off camera, "I am going to kill you!".

This POS can't even control herself AFTER the person she was with was shot and killed. MY take? Let's give thanks for selective culling of the herd. These two AHs took each other out and thank god they didn't hurt anyone else.

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Palm Desert is just like any out lying area of a large Metro area. The scumbags that cannot afford the city and are willing to work at cheaply paid jobs have moved out to the desert areas where they can be scum with little or no law enforcement intrusion.

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Judging by all the murders that have happened at toy stores in the last 20 years, it's time to take a stand.

[rosethecopycat]

The councilman says his question is: who takes a loaded gun into a toy store. And his answer is: "I doubt it was the casual holiday shopper."


Now there's the newest oxymoron I've heard:

casual holiday shopper

[Edwina's Secretary]

This POS can't even control herself AFTER the person she was with was shot and killed. MY take? Let's give thanks for selective culling of the herd. These two AHs took each other out and thank god they didn't hurt anyone else.

But isn't that just it? What if I am not a AH or POS or whatever...what if I am just a person in Toys R Us...someone who wants to buy a toy.

And I am dead. Because of the guns.

Am I any less dead because I am not one of the AH or the POS or ..whatever?

Does that make me part of the herd or not part of the herd?

No. I am dead.

[blue]

But isn't that just it? What if I am not a AH or POS or whatever...what if I am just a person in Toys R Us...someone who wants to buy a toy.

And I am dead. Because of the guns.

Am I any less dead because I am not one of the AH or the POS or ..whatever?

Does that make me part of the herd or not part of the herd?

No. I am dead.

So you would confront and provoke someone who is brandishing a firearm? Why would you take such an action unless you are armed?

[sparks19]

I'm so sick of this nonsense.

AGAIN... no one posts the articles about the guns that SAVE INNOCENT people.

Yeah... criminals kill people... OMG shocking

but whatever... I know the stance.... I'm not going to try to change your mind... but I am also not going to put my families life in your hands either.

like I said before. YOU don't have to like it... but my daughters life will be in MY hands and my husbands hands... NOT yours.

I will NOT be trusting her life in the event of the "unthinkable" to YOU or the POLICE.

You don't have to like it.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I will NOT be trusting her life in the event of the "unthinkable" to YOU or the POLICE.

You don't have to like it.

I have no interest in protecting your daughter. She is your responsibility.

Just be careful and don't take her to any Toys R Us! You never know who might be armed there. And a faster draw than you!

[Marigold2]

Sounds like you live in the wild west or Dodge City.
Chances are you will never use your guns to protect yourself against home invaders or a person shooting at you.
What you need to truly worry about if you want to protect your daughter is
drunk drivers hitting your car when you are returning from grocery shopping
a school mate calling her fat, ugly, stupid.
a best friend not inviting her to a party
a teacher not liking her
finding out she has a learning disability that will cause her to need special classes or treatment
cancer
a boyfriend breaking her heart
breaking her leg on the night of her senior prom
not being good at dodgeball
having problems reading or doing math
an allegery to an unknown food
a bad cold that won't go away
or going over to a friends house and being given drugs
having a classmate show off dad's new gun
another girl being mean to her, just because she can
This and a million other things parents worry about as their child grows older. If you ask other members of PT who have been parents for a while these are the things that hurt children. Having a gun does not protect against any of these.
My daughter went to a friends house and the numbnut was cleaning his gun right in front of the girls and his infant daughter, she never went back there.
What scared me was people who didn't lock up their guns. People that didn't teach their kids to stay away from them. Many 14 year olds just have to show their friends the guns because heck it's cool. That is what you should fear as well.
And just because someone takes gun safety classes doesn't mean he won't go out drinking, get incredibly drunk pull the gun on his wife or child because they got into a fight. Happens all the time. No matter how many gun safety classes a person takes, human nature comes into play and people are shot over and over and over by family members.
Did we have guns in the house, yup my dad was a cop. Do I own a gun, yes. But being raised by a cop I know the dangers all too well. You are much more likely to be killed by your own gun then protecting your home or family. Unless you have training all the time, not target practice but defense training hitting a target is very difficult, most people freeze and in that moment the bad guy takes the gun or hits you over the head or whatever. Rare is the person who stays calm enough to fire a straight shot.
So even though I believe in the right to bare arms, I also think 99% of people shouldn't have one.

I'm so sick of this nonsense.

AGAIN... no one posts the articles about the guns that SAVE INNOCENT people.

Yeah... criminals kill people... OMG shocking

but whatever... I know the stance.... I'm not going to try to change your mind... but I am also not going to put my families life in your hands either.

like I said before. YOU don't have to like it... but my daughters life will be in MY hands and my husbands hands... NOT yours.

I will NOT be trusting her life in the event of the "unthinkable" to YOU or the POLICE.

You don't have to like it.

[Grace]

So you would confront and provoke someone who is brandishing a firearm? Why would you take such an action unless you are armed?

No, she would not have to confront anyone. She could have been simply a shopper who got hit by a stray bullet. You know - one of those drive-by victims.

[blue]

No, she would not have to confront anyone. She could have been simply a shopper who got hit by a stray bullet. You know - one of those drive-by victims.

She wouldnt get down or run to get out of the area? I didnt realise the shooters at the ToysRUs drove into the store.

A PSA for anybody afraid of people legally carrying a concealed firearm in stores, restaurants and, with few exceptions, other public places. Stay out of Alaska. Anybody who can legally own, and purchase a handgun can carry concealed here.