Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[RICHARD]

Anyhoo, back to the thread, i just heard him say yesterday , that he was getting rid of the prison where they are holding terrorists, cannot remember the name of it starts with a G,he said Americans don't torture, to quote him.

Guantanamo Bay in the SE part of Cuba. (this geography I know!).
It all depends on what you consider torture. There have been report of prisoners being subjected to sensory deprivation or sensory overloads. The Abu Gharib story was another story of American's "torturing" prisoners.

A few scumbags got it into their heads that it was O.K. to humiliate prisoners held there. IN theory what the world thinks is torture is a long way from the way that some governments and individuals have treated prisoners -war and other types- in the past.

I have no problems with any politico lying about things he will change once he wins office. It's the grandeur and 'change' that pulls the people in. ANd when you promise whiz-bang changes and back down before your first day on the job is very promising indeed. Our president elect will have no problem fitting into the mold of a politician.

[lizbud]

I have no problems with any politico lying about things he will change once he wins office. It's the grandeur and 'change' that pulls the people in. ANd when you promise whiz-bang changes and back down before your first day on the job is very promising indeed. Our president elect will have no problem fitting into the mold of a politician.

Why do you say that you have no problem with politicians who lie, when
you clearly do?

If you are talking about Presidental candidates, please name three.

[RICHARD]

Why do you say that you have no problem with politicians who lie, when
you clearly do?

If you are talking about Presidental candidates, please name three.

Going on BIG lies and stupid lies.

JM - we may be in Iraq for 100 years- that's a reality, could be a lie.

BO - In 16 months all the troops will be home. That's a pipe dream and a lie.

HRC - Yes, she can. Stupid lie.

If a PC comes out and says something stupid that I think is a white lie he can slide with that.

When they come out and promise that they will take care of global warming, terror attacks and our dependence on oil?

THose are out and out freaking lies.

Solamente un tonto, le dicea al el.

And borrowing a political line from a bunch of disenfranchised Mexican citizens is highly original.