Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[carole]

You are forgiven Richard, but like i said in my Pm to you , i can tell the difference between a canadian and an American,infact the aussie and NZer's do have a quite distinct differences in their accent,it may not be obvious to you, but it is to us,we say fush and chups they say feesh n cheeps., i am saying fish and chips, now that is just but one of many examples.i accept your humble excuses lol.

Anyhoo, back to the thread, i just heard him say yesterday , that he was getting rid of the prison where they are holding terrorists, cannot remember the name of it starts with a G,he said Americans don't torture, to quote him.

Hey Lizbud i understand, i actually like the man. we are on the same side, just pointing out that here and anywhere politicians make promise they really have no intention of keeping.,not singling Barack out, just in general that is what happens.

[JenBKR]

politicians make promise they really have no intention of keeping.,not singling Barack out, just in general that is what happens.

Oh I agree, seems that you hear so many promises that are never kept. I think that many politicians make promises that sound good, but when they get in office and get all of the private info, they realize that what they promised may not be possible, or in the best interest of the people. I think it would be pretty hard to make promises and keep them without having all of the facts first!

[RICHARD]

Anyhoo, back to the thread, i just heard him say yesterday , that he was getting rid of the prison where they are holding terrorists, cannot remember the name of it starts with a G,he said Americans don't torture, to quote him.

Guantanamo Bay in the SE part of Cuba. (this geography I know!).
It all depends on what you consider torture. There have been report of prisoners being subjected to sensory deprivation or sensory overloads. The Abu Gharib story was another story of American's "torturing" prisoners.

A few scumbags got it into their heads that it was O.K. to humiliate prisoners held there. IN theory what the world thinks is torture is a long way from the way that some governments and individuals have treated prisoners -war and other types- in the past.

I have no problems with any politico lying about things he will change once he wins office. It's the grandeur and 'change' that pulls the people in. ANd when you promise whiz-bang changes and back down before your first day on the job is very promising indeed. Our president elect will have no problem fitting into the mold of a politician.

[lizbud]

I have no problems with any politico lying about things he will change once he wins office. It's the grandeur and 'change' that pulls the people in. ANd when you promise whiz-bang changes and back down before your first day on the job is very promising indeed. Our president elect will have no problem fitting into the mold of a politician.

Why do you say that you have no problem with politicians who lie, when
you clearly do?

If you are talking about Presidental candidates, please name three.

[RICHARD]

Why do you say that you have no problem with politicians who lie, when
you clearly do?

If you are talking about Presidental candidates, please name three.

Going on BIG lies and stupid lies.

JM - we may be in Iraq for 100 years- that's a reality, could be a lie.

BO - In 16 months all the troops will be home. That's a pipe dream and a lie.

HRC - Yes, she can. Stupid lie.

If a PC comes out and says something stupid that I think is a white lie he can slide with that.

When they come out and promise that they will take care of global warming, terror attacks and our dependence on oil?

THose are out and out freaking lies.

Solamente un tonto, le dicea al el.

And borrowing a political line from a bunch of disenfranchised Mexican citizens is highly original.

[phesina]

You are forgiven Richard, but like i said in my Pm to you , i can tell the difference between a canadian and an American,infact the aussie and NZer's do have a quite distinct differences in their accent,it may not be obvious to you, but it is to us,we say fush and chups they say feesh n cheeps., i am saying fish and chips, now that is just but one of many examples.i accept your humble excuses lol.

This reminds me of about 30 years ago when I was hanging out in Doolin, Co. Clare, Ireland for a while. A lot of travelers passed through all the time, including quite a few from both Australia and New Zealand. One time while chatting with a couple of Kiwis, I mentioned that I'd noticed the New Zealanders always had their flag sewn onto their packs. "That's so people don't mistake us for Australian," they replied.

"Oh, yeah, like Canadians always have their flag on their packs so as not to be mistaken for Americans!" I said.

I can tell the difference between Australian and New Zealand accents.. I think I still can, anyway, at this point.. it's been quite a while now.

[RICHARD]

http://www.victoryplate.com/?directL...FC9F6CE97AC043


Dishwasher safe?


I still have my Bill Clinton bib, is that worth anything?