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    In answer to your question, well i really don't know, sure it exists, but there is so much wealth in both our countries too,in most third world countries they are just surrounded by poverty, it is everywhere,I guess i just don't see it as being quite the same,or to the same extent, i sure hope it does not become so..
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    Maybe I'm wrong about this, but doesn't wealth exist in third world countries too? It just belongs to a few in power though?
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    There is a vast difference between being poor in America and being poor in India or Africia.
    If you are poor in America you might only have one car, one TV and you shop at Walmart and go to a free clinic.
    Being poor in Africia means you don't have shoes, have never seen a tooth brush, you have never been full, had an orange or apple, clean water to drink and spend your short and miserable life without seeing a Dr or having any meds at all. It's not having a bowl to put rice in.
    There are different types of poor for sure. Here in America you have free education, free birth control, and many other opinions that millions in the world never have or dream off. As a woman you can wear the cloths you want, marry whom you want and practice the reglion you want, in Iran and Iraq being poor means being in fearof your life from gunfire and being afraid you will die of hunger. We are blessed and spoiled, we are one of the fattest and least educated people in the modern world. High crime, high teenage pregency rate, it goes on and on, we are poor in brains it seems often.
    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    Maybe I'm wrong about this, but doesn't wealth exist in third world countries too? It just belongs to a few in power though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    There is a vast difference between being poor in America and being poor in India or Africia.
    If you are poor in America you might only have one car, one TV and you shop at Walmart and go to a free clinic.
    I have to disagree. Being poor in America can mean being homeless, staying in a shelter when you can get a bed, worrying how you will feed your children, choosing between paying the rent and feeding your family, often means having no car, never mind a TV. And with no car, you have no access or ability to get to that "free clinic" ... it can mean working two jobs and still falling further into debt, it can mean leaving your children with someone you cannot trust so you can work to get money to feed them ...

    If you are homeless, you don't get that "free education" as you have no address from which to register your kids for school.

    That doesn't mean being poor in India or Africa is any less horrific, or tragic. I was speaking with the woman who runs the ecumenical food pantry that is housed in our church basement, as she said not only is the need increasing dramatically, but that there are still people who don't believe that there are hungry people in their town.

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    Karen, I totally agree with you. Marigold, there are many homeless people with no car, no tv, and no money to shop at walmart.
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    There are homeless in the US, there are poor people in the US.....

    But we don't have entire cities made up of cardboard shacks.
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    Still I would rather be homeless in America then India or Africia.
    There is more of a chance to get ahead in this country.
    Being poor in India means life expectency is 35 instead of 70 or 80 here.
    Most people in America have seen a Dr, have shoes, a toothbrush, a bowl to put food in, a chance at clean water.
    People in Africia and India bath in the same water they drink.
    I doubt anyone would choose being poor in those countries as oppossed to being poor in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    But we don't have entire cities made up of cardboard shacks.
    I saw this, first hand in Somalia. People living in such squalor that I literally weeped. Me, big tough Army guy, 19 years old... Young, dumb and full of... I WEEPED for those people.

    Yet those same people, who we were there to help shot at us. Fired RPGs at us... Why? Because their hate filled Cleric told them we are "the great satan." (read: Rich, successful people are the enemy.)


    Poverty is akin to slavery. More often than not, the means to get people truly out of poverty exists. But shamefully, people in positions of power do things to keep them in poverty, to maintain power over them... (and keep the poor voting for them) Think about that as our President-Elect creates more welfare programs. Think about that as he takes money from the successful and gives it to the "poor". All that does is enable the poor to STAY poor and enslaved.

    Welfare = SLAVERY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    There are homeless in the US, there are poor people in the US.....

    But we don't have entire cities made up of cardboard shacks.
    Years ago my parents would take us into Mexico to camp on the beach in Rosarito.

    You would hit the border in San Ysidro and boom, There was literally a shanty town made up of cardboard house. It was built in a little valley/river bed that would flood out during the rainy season washing all the cardboard out to the ocean where the river emptied.

    The river was also the sewer and a place for people to get water. All the time we drove by there I could not imagine that just over the border is a place where being 'poor' was having one TV in the house. Sharing a room with two other brothers, only having one car, getting one Christmas present- A good one, but one only. I remember getting a pillow and a candy cane filled with M&Ms one year. The local American Legion post gave us a box of food so that Christmas wasn't a total loss.

    Being 'poor' in America is nothing like it is being poor anywhere else.

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    The huge one piece garage doors people replace on their homes to give them curb appeal?

    On Interstate 5 we'd drive to work and see these huge trucks with 30-40 garage doors loaded on the back.

    I was thinking aobut loud an asked "what are they doing carting them down the freeway?" HOUSES, my brother answered. Houses?

    Instead of tossed them out as scrap, people in Tijuana and points south would pay to use them as walls to the their shanties/homes. Go figure-people are b!tching about taking out low cost paper on their homes and other people put together homes out of mismatched garage doors.

    I love America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carole View Post
    In answer to your question, well i really don't know, sure it exists, but there is so much wealth in both our countries too,in most third world countries they are just surrounded by poverty, it is everywhere,I guess i just don't see it as being quite the same,or to the same extent, i sure hope it does not become so..

    Homeless people have become the "invisable people" in my city. I see
    news reports, complete with film clips, around the holidays reporting on
    their dire circumstances. They say there are whole familes who live under
    bridges & highway ramps. I do think national averages are underrated.
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    ok thanks for answering my question, I think it is becoming worse in every country for sure and of course wealth exists in third world countries,I just think in NZ and the United States it is on a lesser scale, i have no facts to back myself up, but it is just how i think i guess.
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    RIP my gorgeous Sooti, taken from us far too young, we miss your beautiful face and purssonality,take care of Ash for us, love you xx000❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Ash,your pawprints are forever in my heart, love and miss you so much my big boy. ❤️❤️

    RIP my sweet gorgeous girl Ellie-Mae, a little battler to the end, you will never ever be forgotten, your little soul is forever in my heart, my thoughts, my memories, my love for you will never die, Love you my darling little precious girl.❤️❤️

    RIP our sweet Nikita taken suddenly ,way too soon ,you were a special girl we loved you so much ,miss you ❤️❤️

    RIP my beautiful Lexie, 15 years of unconditional love you gave us, we loved you so much, and miss you more than words can say.❤️❤️

    RIP beautiful Evee Ray Skye ,my life will never be the same with out you ,I loved you so much, I will never forget you ,miss you my darling .❤️❤️

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