Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[lizbud]

ES, I'm going to keep this mild, again out of respect for the OP.

I thought you were removing yourself from the thread out of respect for
the OP? What happened? Why did you feel it was your duty to contradict
another person's opinion? Everybody's opinion should be respected, no?

[Lady's Human]

There's a difference between stating something as opinion and stating something as percieved fact.

The prior statement was mainly in reference to the topic the thread was previously drifting to. There is no such thing as a polite discussion on that particular topic, as tempers tend to flare when the discussion drifts in that direction.

[lizbud]

There's a difference between stating something as opinion and stating something as percieved fact.

Facts, as we percieve them, create opinions.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Facts, as we percieve them, create opinions.

Nicely put, Liz. Especially as I was struggling over "perceived facts." I thought a fact to be a fact and a perception to be a perception.

"Perceived Fact" sounds like some kind of double speak to me.

[carole]

Thank you Catland, i value your comments.

Just something i wish to ask, Do any of you honestly think there are any americans and NZers for that matter, who live as a third world country, no sanitation,no water, no food, no home,no electricity, no future, i mean yes there are NZers here who are homeless and who i would consider live on the poverty line, but i still cannot compare them to a third world country, IMO they are still far better off than those poor souls.,anyhow that is just my opinion for what it is worth, we are the blessed i think.,and yes slightly off topic here, but then i am responding to anothers post in this thread.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

We have thousands of homeless people who have no shelter and no idea where their next meal is coming from who live in unsafe and unsanitary conditions every second. More are becoming homeless every day. Seems to me, we are on the verge of becoming a third world country.

What is the number who have to live in those conditions before we qualify?

[carole]

In answer to your question, well i really don't know, sure it exists, but there is so much wealth in both our countries too,in most third world countries they are just surrounded by poverty, it is everywhere,I guess i just don't see it as being quite the same,or to the same extent, i sure hope it does not become so..

[Edwina's Secretary]

I thought you were removing yourself from the thread out of respect for
the OP? What happened? Why did you feel it was your duty to contradict
another person's opinion? Everybody's opinion should be respected, no?

His hatred of my opinion is certainly coloring his judgement!

I have yet to see him respect any opinion that differs from his own opinion.

That this war is based on anything BUT lies is your opinion LH. Just that. Your opinion. Not fact.

And btw...my hatred is for the actions of this administration - not the administration. You know....hate the sin, love the sinner?

[catland]

Well, as you can see Carole, our reasons for voting for a particular person are quite varied.

What can seem like a forgivable flaw or misstep to one voter can be a deal breaker for another voter.

This is what our politicians have to deal with. Trying to appeal to as many voters as possible without stepping on too many landmines. Statements get taken out of context, and sometimes people hear what they want to hear.

There will never be a "perfect" candidate because all of us have different ideas of what that "perfect" candidate would be. I do not agree with my candidate on every issue, but he didn't do anything that fell into the "dealbreaker" category as far as I was concerned.