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[Edwina's Secretary]

Gay and lesbians getting married have no impact on the success or validity of straight peoples' marriages.

The commercial that most baffles me is the one that says Prop 8 will "restore traditional marriage." Why didn't anyone tell me my "traditional marriage" needed restoring???? What happened to it?

[caseysmom]

The commercial that most baffles me is the one that says Prop 8 will "restore traditional marriage." Why didn't anyone tell me my "traditional marriage" needed restoring???? What happened to it?

Exactly, gay marriages have not hurt my marriage, not sure how they have harmed anybody elses.

[IRescue452]

Glad to be voting, though no idea who I'll go with locally, I'm so sick of all the local WI politicians, heck with them all, this state could be run better by one of my dogs.

[caseysmom]

It looks like prop 8 has passed Well popcornbird can rest assured that gay people will be gay no longer

[blue]

Alaskan voters defined marriage as one man one woman with a constitutional amendment back in 1998.

[CathyBogart]

*snarl* I'm so glad I'm leaving this state

[beeniesmom]

I am overwhelmed with emotion today.

[JenBKR]

With the divorce rate at around 50%, I think that 'traditional' marriage is gone anyway....why should the government get to decide who should be allowed to marry?


I am not familiar with prop 4...will have to check on that one.

[popcornbird]

Gay 'marriage' is not marriage. It never has been, and it never will be, even if the law states that it is. Marriage has always been between a man and a woman. That's what marriage is!! Man + Woman...that's IT.

If people want to do weird/gross things in their lives or in their homes, and the government IS giving them rights, well, they have nothing to complain about. My question is this. Why do THEY want to call their 'union' a MARRIAGE when it is NOT? Why do they call it a fundamental RIGHT??? when it is not? Jeez. And they compare it to races...that's the most hilarious part about it.

Marriage is marriage. A contract of union between a man and a woman. That is it. That's how it was since the creation of mankind and that's what it means. They can call their 'union' whatever they want, but the reality is, it isn't marriage.

I registered to vote this year JUST to vote YES on prop 8, and many, many people have done the same. This is actually more important for me than the presidential elections because I'm not really impressed by either candidate. I care for Prop 8, and Prop 2 (the animal rights one), and am voting a big YES to both of them. Prop 8 isn't about taking 'rights' away from anyone. Its about preserving marriage as what it IS, preserving family as what it IS, and protecting parents rights over their children. Do you folks know that in Massachusetts, a father was taken to jail just because he didn't want the school teaching his 5 year old child about same sex marriage? Now THAT is a violation of rights. The government has no right to prevent people from raising their own children with the moral values and ethics they decide. Besides, who teaches a 5 year old about adult relationships anyway? A 5 year old is far too young to even know about normal male/female relationships. These schools/teachers have some serious issues. I would never raise my children in such an abnormal environment, with such abnormal teachings. 'The King and the King'...What a joke of a book. All they want to do is brainwash kids from the time when they're too young to understand anything or form an opinion.

Funny how every other thing becomes a 'fundamental right' these days...even things that are abnormal and wrong, from a moral/ethical point of view, scientifically speaking, and in all religious values.

What's wrong is wrong. Wrong will never be right. The problem is when you hear a lie so many times, you start thinking its the truth. Marriage has never been about party 1 and party 2. It has always been between bride and groom, and should always be that way. That's what marriage is. It isn't anything else.

This should not even be an issue. Sometimes I wonder who was the idiot who even came up with the idea about making marriage between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Its just sooo messed up. It isn't marriage!!!

Sorry about going so long, but I feel very strongly about this issue. I'm disgusted by the behavior of the 'no to prop 8' people, stealing yes to prop 8 signs from everywhere. They're the ones who are taking peoples' rights away, not the other way around. This shouldn't have even been an issue, because Californians voted Yes to Prop 22 and passed it long time ago. Who were the judges to overturn the vote of the people? Rights... Next time we blink, they might be making marrying your biological sibling a right. Then when we blink again, they'll be making it legal to marry your mom! Hey, if they love each other, why not?

Some things just aren't 'RIGHTS'!!!

[caseysmom]

There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts.

[kitten645]

"There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts"

Amen to that. But I'm not surprised I too have to wonder "What are they scared of?" No on H8!
Claudia

[blue]

I dont have a problem with gay marriage, what I have a problem with is that married couples have more rights in some cases and more penalties in other cases then single citizens and non married couples do. Gay people want the unions sanctioned at the state or federal level to get the same rights, including the penalties that hetro couples get. One or two groups should not benifit any more then the third group does, we are all Americans and should be treated equally.

[popcornbird]

There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts.

Nice. So now I'm ignorant for believing in reality (marriage between man and woman), and I'm also hateful for believing in reality (that only men and women are made to get married to each other). And somehow attacking me brings you some sort of satisfaction?? You think I care about what a few people think? I don't care about people who insist on what is wrong. The fact is, marriage was never about party 1 and party 2. It was always about bride and groom. It is supposed to be about bride and groom...AND, anyone who tries to teach a 5 year old child about adult relationships is seriously messed up. That's a parent's job.

As to judging people, I am not judging anyone...I am talking about marriage here....HOWEVER, if it was SO wrong to judge people who do wrong things, then we shouldn't have any judges or civil law in our society. That's what they do. JUDGE. I guess all judges are bad people then (not in my opinion, but according to your argument).

Let's not judge a man who wants to marry his sister then. And why should we judge people who have 10 wives? Its their choice. Why should we prevent moms and sons from marrying? Don't they have any rights to make their own decisions? Think rationally. This is not about rights. This is about marriage and family, and marriage and family have always had ONE meaning. That meaning should stay forever.

[Catty1]

Since the gay marriage thing stirred stuff up in Canada, I think I'll try to clarify something.

OK - man and woman alone can get married, or have a marriage (bear with me here).

A gay couple, I believe, has the right to a union that is identical - however, give it another name BESIDES "marriage".

The issue here is dictionary meaning/legal description of a union. If it's a man and woman, it's marriage. If it's man and man, or woman and woman, it is --- ?

The relationship is the same, but the word needs to be different.

I think that is what is upsetting people that are married, man and woman. The word "marriage" is special to them.

I am not really agreeing or disagreeing here...just pointing out that it is a question of terminology, not rights, and nothing to do with hate or being cruel.

Know what I mean?

[caseysmom]

I have been married for 27 years and I would have no problem sharing the word with another couple be it two men or two women, doesn't lessen my union one bit...guess my marriage is pretty secure that way.