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  1. #1
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    Proposition 4 and proposition 8 are trying to change our constitution and both are backed by the Republican parties.
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Proposition 4 and proposition 8 are trying to change our constitution and both are backed by the Republican parties.

    And to think that there may be a dem or two that opposes it?

    Nope, no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Proposition 4 and proposition 8 are trying to change our constitution and both are backed by the Republican parties.
    Don't know about Prop 4, but Prop 8 is about writing discrimination into a state constitution.

    The Constitution was created to give rights to people, not take them away or prevent people from obtaining them. Gay and lesbians getting married have no impact on the success or validity of straight peoples' marriages. Every individual who finds someone they wish to spend the rest of their life with should be given equal protection, rights and responsibility under the law. The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Don't know about Prop 4, but Prop 8 is about writing discrimination into a state constitution.

    The Constitution was created to give rights to people, not take them away or prevent people from obtaining them. Gay and lesbians getting married have no impact on the success or validity of straight peoples' marriages. Every individual who finds someone they wish to spend the rest of their life with should be given equal protection, rights and responsibility under the law. The end.
    I couldn't agree with you more and don't really understand why they care so much. We have had lots of nuts out with signs jumping in front of cars and they claim to be worried about the children and they drag their kids out in the rain to hold a sign for hours spewing hate...I don't get it.
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

    I have been frosted!

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    Along with the presidency vote; I voted "NO" to Ohio casinos being built....while "YES" on enviromental issues to save trees, lands, etc.
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    There are two proposals on the Michigan ballot. One to allow the use of medicinal marijuana; the other in favor of expanding stem cell research. I voted in support of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    There are two proposals on the Michigan ballot. One to allow the use of medicinal marijuana; the other in favor of expanding stem cell research. I voted in support of both.
    Same here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramanth View Post
    Same here.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Gay and lesbians getting married have no impact on the success or validity of straight peoples' marriages.
    The commercial that most baffles me is the one that says Prop 8 will "restore traditional marriage." Why didn't anyone tell me my "traditional marriage" needed restoring???? What happened to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    The commercial that most baffles me is the one that says Prop 8 will "restore traditional marriage." Why didn't anyone tell me my "traditional marriage" needed restoring???? What happened to it?
    Exactly, gay marriages have not hurt my marriage, not sure how they have harmed anybody elses.
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    Glad to be voting, though no idea who I'll go with locally, I'm so sick of all the local WI politicians, heck with them all, this state could be run better by one of my dogs.
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    It looks like prop 8 has passed Well popcornbird can rest assured that gay people will be gay no longer
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

    I have been frosted!

    Thanks Kfamr for the signature!


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    Alaskan voters defined marriage as one man one woman with a constitutional amendment back in 1998.
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    With the divorce rate at around 50%, I think that 'traditional' marriage is gone anyway....why should the government get to decide who should be allowed to marry?


    I am not familiar with prop 4...will have to check on that one.

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    Gay 'marriage' is not marriage. It never has been, and it never will be, even if the law states that it is. Marriage has always been between a man and a woman. That's what marriage is!! Man + Woman...that's IT.

    If people want to do weird/gross things in their lives or in their homes, and the government IS giving them rights, well, they have nothing to complain about. My question is this. Why do THEY want to call their 'union' a MARRIAGE when it is NOT? Why do they call it a fundamental RIGHT??? when it is not? Jeez. And they compare it to races...that's the most hilarious part about it.

    Marriage is marriage. A contract of union between a man and a woman. That is it. That's how it was since the creation of mankind and that's what it means. They can call their 'union' whatever they want, but the reality is, it isn't marriage.

    I registered to vote this year JUST to vote YES on prop 8, and many, many people have done the same. This is actually more important for me than the presidential elections because I'm not really impressed by either candidate. I care for Prop 8, and Prop 2 (the animal rights one), and am voting a big YES to both of them. Prop 8 isn't about taking 'rights' away from anyone. Its about preserving marriage as what it IS, preserving family as what it IS, and protecting parents rights over their children. Do you folks know that in Massachusetts, a father was taken to jail just because he didn't want the school teaching his 5 year old child about same sex marriage? Now THAT is a violation of rights. The government has no right to prevent people from raising their own children with the moral values and ethics they decide. Besides, who teaches a 5 year old about adult relationships anyway? A 5 year old is far too young to even know about normal male/female relationships. These schools/teachers have some serious issues. I would never raise my children in such an abnormal environment, with such abnormal teachings. 'The King and the King'...What a joke of a book. All they want to do is brainwash kids from the time when they're too young to understand anything or form an opinion.

    Funny how every other thing becomes a 'fundamental right' these days...even things that are abnormal and wrong, from a moral/ethical point of view, scientifically speaking, and in all religious values.

    What's wrong is wrong. Wrong will never be right. The problem is when you hear a lie so many times, you start thinking its the truth. Marriage has never been about party 1 and party 2. It has always been between bride and groom, and should always be that way. That's what marriage is. It isn't anything else.

    This should not even be an issue. Sometimes I wonder who was the idiot who even came up with the idea about making marriage between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Its just sooo messed up. It isn't marriage!!!

    Sorry about going so long, but I feel very strongly about this issue. I'm disgusted by the behavior of the 'no to prop 8' people, stealing yes to prop 8 signs from everywhere. They're the ones who are taking peoples' rights away, not the other way around. This shouldn't have even been an issue, because Californians voted Yes to Prop 22 and passed it long time ago. Who were the judges to overturn the vote of the people? Rights... Next time we blink, they might be making marrying your biological sibling a right. Then when we blink again, they'll be making it legal to marry your mom! Hey, if they love each other, why not?

    Some things just aren't 'RIGHTS'!!!

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