Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[Lady's Human]

Attack?

No, Sara, I haven't attacked you.

I can flame, as well as anyone, but I haven't done it here, as I respect most of the posters on the website, and if I had the Mod would hammer me quicker than anyone on the board.

The Lott and FBI crime stats have been discussed and posted before, and you choose not to believe them, as you do with any stats that don't conform to your view of the world, regardless of the source.

The military stats were an issue we were discussing in PM a couple of weeks ago, frankly, I forgot about it. Try Army Times, they normally do an annual survey and publish it.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Attack?

No, Sara, I haven't attacked you.

I can flame, as well as anyone, but I haven't done it here, as I respect most of the posters on the website, and if I had the Mod would hammer me quicker than anyone on the board.

The Lott and FBI crime stats have been discussed and posted before, and you choose not to believe them, as you do with any stats that don't conform to your view of the world, regardless of the source.

The military stats were an issue we were discussing in PM a couple of weeks ago, frankly, I forgot about it. Try Army Times, they normally do an annual survey and publish it.

I have never seen any statistics posted here on the use of guns to prevent crimes. Sorry. I just haven't. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.

I have seen statistics on the higher risk to those who live in homes with guns than homes without guns. As well as other anti-gun stats. I suspect you would have the same reaction to me saying such stats exist as I have to your statement about stats I truthful do not ever recall seeing. Probably the first thing you would do is question the source of the statistics. Then you would go into a long winded explanation of why they are all wrong and only yours are right.

Then you would call me a barnyard animal.

You are at least consistent in your behavior!

[Edwina's Secretary]

And a question LH...when was the last time you agreed with statistics that did not support with your political position?

Was there ice involved?

[Lady's Human]

No, there wasn't ice involved, and I've never accused you of being a barnyard animal.

Nice attempt to smear, ES, but it just isn't going to work. The Lott studies and FBI stats (raw statistical data from the FBI, not massaged by someone) have been discussed, you poo-poo'd the data.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Nice try LH...look it up in your dictionary. Biddy is a barnyard animal.

And I am still waiting for your high moral indignation at the denigation of a candidate's speech pattern. Being as how you take great offense at discussion of non-issue -- personal type stuff.

Yeah...right.

[sparks19]

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

* Americans use firearms to defend themselves from criminals at least 764,000 times a year. This figure is the lowest among a group of 9 nationwide surveys done by organizations including Gallup and the Los Angeles Times. (16b)

* In 1982, a survey of imprisoned criminals found that 34% of them had been "scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim." (16c)



* Washington D.C. enacted a virtual ban on handguns in 1976. Between 1976 and 1991, Washington D.C.'s homicide rate rose 200%, while the U.S. rate rose 12%. (1)

[sparks19]

Oh good lord... now this is just getting ridiculous.

Why don't you just go meet at the monkey bars after school (no teachers) and settle this schoolyard nonsense like most kids.

and lets get back to the debate.

[Lady's Human]

Give it up, Sara. You're flailing and failing.

There hasn't been a discussion in here involving firearms and gun control which you haven't inserted yourself into, and you remember remarks made by people months, sometimes years after the fact, yet you can't remember something as central to the discussion as FBI raw statistical data and the Lott studies.

As to Biddy, the colloquial definition is:

biddy
Noun
pl -dies Informal a woman, esp. an old gossipy one

which is the definition I was clearly using in the earlier discussion.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sorry Joe. I think that is passive -aggressive behavior you are exhibiting!

Telling me I am failing and flailing because you don't want to answer a question!

Okee dokee!

Sparky is playing nice. Why can't you?

[RICHARD]

As to Biddy, the colloquial definition is:

biddy
Noun
pl -dies Informal a woman, esp. an old gossipy one

Male-en The male form of a biddy.