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    I took it to mean if someone does it mockingly, they are just being an ass, but someone who seriously means it would be disturbing to a Christian who believes only Christ is the Messiah. Though I haven't personally heard anyone referring to Obama as such, I have to doubt anyone truly means it seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K9soul View Post
    I took it to mean if someone does it mockingly, they are just being an ass, but someone who seriously means it would be disturbing to a Christian who believes only Christ is the Messiah. Though I haven't personally heard anyone referring to Obama as such, I have to doubt anyone truly means it seriously.

    I've never heard Obama called or even described as a Messiah.
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    Listen for yourselves

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs

    Instrument that God is going to use?

    THANK YOU, Pam!!! I was beginning to think myself CRAZY! I've heard, with my own ears, Obama being referred in this way many times. When most of you said you'd hadn't heard anything like this...I well, felt a bit crazy for a second there.

    Then, I kept on hearing and reading it. I should site these sources and will from now on.

    From above:
    On "Saviors Day, 2008" Louis Farrakhan Declares Barack Obama The Messiah....
    Messiah....Savior....Christ....hmm.
    You CANNOT tell me Obama doesn't know someone like Louis Farrakhan is talking about him like this. Seriously???
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    Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

    At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

    Does that bother you at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

    At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

    Does that bother you at all?
    ALL of the above sickens me! Do you not know me at all???

    That stupid flier was intended as a reaction to Obama saying he didn't look like any of the Presidents on our money. They put his picture on a $10 food stamp and put donkey ears on him. A STUPID, CRUEL, EVIL way to react, for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

    At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

    Does that bother you at all?

    It bothers me. All of that is wrong!
    But it doesn't make me think this guy deserves to be President because people are saying such nasty things about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosethecopycat View Post
    It bothers me. All of that is wrong!
    But it doesn't make me think this guy deserves to be President because people are saying such nasty things about him.
    I agree with you. I regreted that posting but I was so angry at the hate.

    There are real reasons to vote. I don't think because Rush Limbaugh or Obama's supporters or anyone else uses the word "messiah" should have anything to do with the election.

    I expressed myself poorly regarding this matter. Ginger's Mom did it far better than I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.
    Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.

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    Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.

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    No. I'm sorry you are having diffiuclty using the internet but I just don't have time to help you with your research. It has been so extensively covered it shouldn't be too difficult!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Can you please find some video of that?
    That was what I asked for, video proof, not reports on what a reporter reported.

    I have not been able to find video where someone shouts out "kill him", and in the video K9soul linked to stated someone yelled "off with his head" but failed to show the video proof of it. I have searched for the Video footage of these claims and found a few where people have yelled terrrorist and treason and zero of any footage where somebody yelled "kill him". 500000 google hits mean absolutly nothing if they dont show footage of the reported claim.

    So if you dont know the difference between video footage and a report of an event you shouldnt be calling someone internet challenged.
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    I truly hope that the Presidential candidates do not allow themselves to be distracted from the issues. If it is as easy as calling a candidate a name in order to get him to spend time talking about something other than political issues, then they will not have time to focus on the issues. You may find this one to be the most important issue and the one that should be addressed. Someone else will find something else said by someone not connected with Obama to be the issue to be addressed, and so on. No, the candidates and their staff should be the ones who decide to which issues/comments they are going respond. If they decide some statements are not worth commenting on, that is their decision. Personally, I feel if the comments have no bearing on what he has or is able to do politically, they should not be addressed. I cannot tell you how strongly I believe that any attention to Mr. Farrakhan's statements are nothing more than misdirection of voters attention. However, having said that, if you don't like the decisions he makes do not vote for him. But the decision on what should or should not be considered issues to be addressed should be only his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom View Post
    But the decision on what should or should not be considered issues to be addressed should be only his.
    Not if it concerns the American people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahsMommy View Post
    Thank you for explaining this to me. While I didn't mean that his supporters were like sheep in any way, I do see what my comment implicates.

    I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock .

    I didn't mean to indicate that I thought you were saying that, I meant the people who are mockingly calling him a messiah in the media are belittling his political supporters. I didn't think that you were calling him that.
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    Not if it concerns the American people.
    I am not sure if I understand this answer. Or it may be that we agree to disagree, which is fine. You do not believe that the candidate has a right to decide what issues he is going to respond to? You believe that Governor Palin should be responding to all of the stories about her because some of the American people want her to? I truly disagree with this. The candidates must decide what they feel is important to this country and focus on those issues. If they decide that not to respond to certain items in the press that I think are important, then I will let them know that on election day. But I cannot expect them to respond to every negative story about them ever printed. And I guarantee you there is going to be someone in the world that thinks something in every story is worth a response. So they have to stick to the issues they see as important to this country. Their choice of what those issues are will give you some insight into whether you agree with their values.

    ETA: And let me say again, whether or not someone called him the Messiah or not, does not have any relation to his ablity to govern this country. I understand that you say it concerns you, I would hope that what someone unrelated to him or his campaign said doesn't concern you more than hearing about what he would do to improve the problems facing American people here and abroad. Since the candidates only had a limited amount of time to make a their positions known as to what they are going to do politically to stregthen this country, they should spend all of their public time addressing those issues. But again that is just my opinion.
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