Honest Obama Question (From a non-supporter)

**Cataholic** · 10-16-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Kelly,
I am surprised you find Rush Limbaugh's derisive use of the word "messiah" acceptable. Could you, from your Christian perspective, tell me why it is okay to use that word as an insult?

Cause it is acceptable to mockingly call someone God or the messiah...you just can't be serious and do it.

Didn't you know that, ES?

**K9soul** · 10-16-2008, 02:41 PM

I took it to mean if someone does it mockingly, they are just being an ass, but someone who seriously means it would be disturbing to a Christian who believes only Christ is the Messiah. Though I haven't personally heard anyone referring to Obama as such, I have to doubt anyone truly means it seriously.

**lizbud** · 10-16-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by K9soul

I took it to mean if someone does it mockingly, they are just being an ass, but someone who seriously means it would be disturbing to a Christian who believes only Christ is the Messiah. Though I haven't personally heard anyone referring to Obama as such, I have to doubt anyone truly means it seriously.

I've never heard Obama called or even described as a Messiah.

**Pam** · 10-16-2008, 05:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs

Instrument that God is going to use?

**NoahsMommy** · 10-17-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs

Instrument that God is going to use?

THANK YOU, Pam!!! I was beginning to think myself CRAZY! I've heard, with my own ears, Obama being referred in this way many times. When most of you said you'd hadn't heard anything like this...I well, felt a bit crazy for a second there.

Then, I kept on hearing and reading it. I should site these sources and will from now on.

From above:
On "Saviors Day, 2008" Louis Farrakhan Declares Barack Obama The Messiah....
Messiah....Savior....Christ....hmm.
You CANNOT tell me Obama doesn't know someone like Louis Farrakhan is talking about him like this. Seriously???

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-17-2008, 10:53 AM

Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

Does that bother you at all?

**NoahsMommy** · 10-17-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

Does that bother you at all?

ALL of the above sickens me! Do you not know me at all???

That stupid flier was intended as a reaction to Obama saying he didn't look like any of the Presidents on our money. They put his picture on a $10 food stamp and put donkey ears on him. A STUPID, CRUEL, EVIL way to react, for sure!

**rosethecopycat** · 10-18-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.

At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

Does that bother you at all?

It bothers me. All of that is wrong!
But it doesn't make me think this guy deserves to be President because people are saying such nasty things about him.

**blue** · 10-18-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.

Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.

KTHNXBY.

**Ginger's Mom** · 10-17-2008, 10:54 AM

I truly hope that the Presidential candidates do not allow themselves to be distracted from the issues. If it is as easy as calling a candidate a name in order to get him to spend time talking about something other than political issues, then they will not have time to focus on the issues. You may find this one to be the most important issue and the one that should be addressed. Someone else will find something else said by someone not connected with Obama to be the issue to be addressed, and so on. No, the candidates and their staff should be the ones who decide to which issues/comments they are going respond. If they decide some statements are not worth commenting on, that is their decision. Personally, I feel if the comments have no bearing on what he has or is able to do politically, they should not be addressed. I cannot tell you how strongly I believe that any attention to Mr. Farrakhan's statements are nothing more than misdirection of voters attention. However, having said that, if you don't like the decisions he makes do not vote for him. But the decision on what should or should not be considered issues to be addressed should be only his.

**NoahsMommy** · 10-17-2008, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom

But the decision on what should or should not be considered issues to be addressed should be only his.

Not if it concerns the American people.

**RICHARD** · 10-17-2008, 10:54 AM

The 'messiah' angle came up at that ALfred E Neuman roast they attended, also I heard two news programs refer to him as the messiah-Fox News L.A. and another cable news channel.

I do not follow any religion- But to think, suggest or speculate that any 'human' could possibly be elevated to god status is insulting and funny, to say the least.

This is another way that people are trying to ingratiate themselves to BO-by pushing their followers, be they a religion, race, economic segment to put him in office. They can come back to claim their part in a Dem win and pressure him to side with them on political/social/economic issues.

It happens all the time. An official put into a seat of government gets put on the spot with, "I helped you win, now do this for me!" And should they balk at the request they will get the "You aren't -------- enough" and dragged across the media as sell outs.

Just watch.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-17-2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

This is another way that people are trying to ingratiate themselves to BO-by pushing their followers, be they a religion, race, economic segment to put him in office. They can come back to claim their part in a Dem win and pressure him to side with them on political/social/economic issues.

And this happens in no other party?

And Ginger's Mom...well said. Far better than I could!

**Edwina's Secretary** · 10-16-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cataholic

Cause it is acceptable to mockingly call someone God or the messiah...you just can't be serious and do it.

Didn't you know that, ES?

Well duh on me!

Am I the only one getting that feeling of deja vu all over again? This whole conversation reminds me of when some Muslims were offended by some Danish cartoons.