About Prison Conditions (long)

[lizbud]

I've always liked Sheriff Joe's way of running his jail.

[shepgirl]

I read that article before and I also like the way he runs the jail. Jails today are more like a Spa . 3 great meals a day, libraries, time out for exercise, etc. Come on, these people are in jail for wrong doing, low level or not. I'll vote for that anytime. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Bet when these guys get out of there they will think twice about doing something that will send them back.
We have people trying to set up a similar program for people on welfare who could be out working. To collect their cheques they are assigned jobs in the community, keeping the ditches and streets clean, helping the elderly, driving people to and from appts. , etc. Community work is always plentiful, this would help some people see how our tax dollars are spent. So much crying over this I don't know if it will be given a fair chance.

[sparks19]

I read that article before and I also like the way he runs the jail. Jails today are more like a Spa . 3 great meals a day, libraries, time out for exercise, etc. Come on, these people are in jail for wrong doing, low level or not. I'll vote for that anytime. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Bet when these guys get out of there they will think twice about doing something that will send them back.
We have people trying to set up a similar program for people on welfare who could be out working. To collect their cheques they are assigned jobs in the community, keeping the ditches and streets clean, helping the elderly, driving people to and from appts. , etc. Community work is always plentiful, this would help some people see how our tax dollars are spent. So much crying over this I don't know if it will be given a fair chance.

Oh I LOVE this idea. if they can't FIND paying jobs then they will be giving community service jobs since the community are the ones that are technically paying their way.

[critter crazy]

Prisoners should be treated like the scum that they are. I Love Sherriff Joe and the way he runs things. Hands Down!

[blue]

If the prisoners dont like the heat Im sure we can fence in a couple a thousand acres as a private prison and let them loose up here.

[Catty1]

Just curious - has anyone here had a friend or relative they liked wind up in jail?

[Lady's Human]

Blue, they wouldn't have to worry about food rotting, either, but I'd be more partial to the back 40 of Ft Drum, NY.

Hotter than hell in the summer, and long stretches of sub zero weather in the winter....and not much in between.

[blue]

Just curious - has anyone here had a friend or relative they liked wind up in jail?

Ive worked with people I grew to like who spent 2-20 years in jail.

I also worked with a convicted pedophile I would have rather killed then work with him.

[critter crazy]

Just curious - has anyone here had a friend or relative they liked wind up in jail?

Yup, and they all deserved, some even went back. If they had gone to sherrif Joes prison, i highly doubt that tehy would have returned.

[shepgirl]

Oh I LOVE this idea. if they can't FIND paying jobs then they will be giving community service jobs since the community are the ones that are technically paying their way.

Our city loves the idea also. But guess who the loudest protesters are....you got it...the people on welfare. Those of course that have no reason to be on in the first place but know how to play the systwm so well they live better than most working people. Hard to give up a free handout to earn your own living after being supported by other hard working people.
The community is fighting hard to make this work but these people come up with the most awesome threats, like lawsuits because they are being threatened by being asked to do a few menial jobs. Some declare health issues but have no proof, they will sue because they can't sleep at night worrying about this....lol. It just never ends...

[Catty1]

So...people on welfare are the same as those in jail?

I dated someone who went to prison for a short time. He had tasks, and earned $7 an hour to do them. These went towards paying off his fine, which shortened his jail stay. Good incentive to work. Minimum security.

Crime? Forgetting to renew his car insurance the year before, and he was nabbed when coming back from overseas through Canada customs.

Joe's jail would have been totally pointless.

[Lady's Human]

Lack of car insurace isn't a jailable offense in the US, AFAIK, unless there are other issues involved.

Sheriff Joe's jail is a non-issue in that case.

[Catty1]

LH - I just got the impression that if someone goes to jail, most here think it should be Sheriff Joe's kind of jail. I am purporting that it is not appropriate much of the time.

Bearing in mind that there are always exceptions to every rule, I think that humane conditions and helping people to achieve a second chance ought to be the rule in prison.

[shepgirl]

So...people on welfare are the same as those in jail?

I dated someone who went to prison for a short time. He had tasks, and earned $7 an hour to do them. These went towards paying off his fine, which shortened his jail stay. Good incentive to work. Minimum security.

Crime? Forgetting to renew his car insurance the year before, and he was nabbed when coming back from overseas through Canada customs.

Joe's jail would have been totally pointless.

Forgetting to renew your car insurance isn't a crime out here.

Some of the people on welfare here have committed fraud to collect welfare Catty...so yes, they should be doing jail time instead. Fraud is a crime punishable by law.
The reason they are not kicked off is because of some crooked lawyers, doctors who have no moral values, etc. Hard to bring these people to court when you know they have a list of charges they are willing to sue the legal system with if they are bothered.
We do have those that are truly in need of welfare and I am the first one to support this, not all are low lifes, not hard to weed them out and I would never dissalow them help knowing their true conditions.

[jennielynn1970]

Forgetting to renew your car insurance isn't a crime out here.

No, but driving a car and not having insurance is. There's lots of people who do that.

In PA, if I don't renew my auto insurance, my insurance company will let the state know and I'll get a nice letter telling me to turn in my plate and not to drive my car. Same if my registration lapses, they'll let my auto insurance know. My auto insurance lapsed once, accidentally, and the hoops I had to jump through to get everything lined up again with the state was mind blowing. Will never goof on that one again!