Quote Originally Posted by lute View Post
What a cool thread! I had no idea Collies were so fluffy over seas! I thought ours had a lot of coat. Thanks for sharing!

Yep.. I am on a couple Collie breeder forums, much like this place, but they are both based in Europe, so very few people on the forum are from North America.

But the "lack" of coat the american collies have compared to the European collies, is one of the biggest complaints the european breeders have with our dogs... they don't think they have enough coat. I personally could not deal with the coat on a european collie...

Also, another thing pretty much north america is the only place that breeds roughs and smooths together anymore... they used to allow it in europe up until I think the 80's?? then it was changed and they split them off as 2 seperate breeds... so the people on that forum were rather concerned when I posted pics of rough and smooth puppies from the same litter LOL they didn't understand why I would do such a thing LOL

I'll try to find a picture of a European smooth.. they look MUCH more like American smooths.... heads might be slightly different but the size and body structure is very similar smooths over here.. they tend to have pretty solid bodies... completely different from their roughs, even though the standards are the same, except for coat...