Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[RICHARD]

Does anyone remember the North Hollywood Shootout at the Bank Of America?

I drove by there the day afer the shooting and you would not believe the mess from the stray shots.

One pretty "impressive" sight was a light standard/pole- The poured concrete type with the steel rebar running thru it- that had been hit with a bullet.
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The chunk missing was about the size of my fist-I wear a Large-XL glove- and the steel shell around a payphone had a nice hole thru it.

Amazing that not more people were hurt.

Guns are tools and are a part of life.

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Jenn,

The Bowling for Columbine movie was horse shiat. The customer was given a certificate for a gun, not actually handed one on the property.

If you walked down the street in your neighborhood you probably live closer to an aresenal than you think. I have some guns in my house and access to more that belonged to my dad. I don't think about them and don't pull them out for any purpose except to shoot them and it's been years since that happened.

I love the look of guns and probably would collect them just to have them. I would love a Belgian FN FAL, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I do have a BIL who was a cop, mind you, and I would never trust him with any type of gun. That dude also collect 'German' war memorabilia. Creepy when he pulls out the "Hitler Youth Knife" to show you.

It's not the gun, It's the moron on the trigger.

Also, I don't know how the laws have changed since, but you could by a semi auto rifle, purchase a "trigger kit" from another source and with a few tools and knowledge of guns turn it into a machine gun. THe same thing with a .50 caliber Barrett rifle. You could buy the parts to it and either put it together yourself or have a gunsmith hook you up.

There are ways around any gun laws and it's all a matter of who owns them.

[Twisterdog]

It's not the gun, It's the moron on the trigger.

Absolutely.

I grew up in a house full of guns. My dad was an avid marksman, collector and hunter. They were a part of life, and we never gave them a second thought. They were tools, to be used by adults. We would have no more thought of playing with one of dad's guns than we would have thought of playing with the lawnmower, the car or the oven. If we wanted to shoot a gun, he took us out in the desert and taught us to do it safely and properly.

If I decide I want to kill you, I can certainly do it with a gun. I can also do it with a kitchen knife, a car, a pillow, a hammer, a rock or my bare hands. The tool is not the killer, the person using the tool is the killer. How many people are killed each year in this country by motor vehicles vs. firearms? Hmmm ...

We have a vast collection of guns. Of course, they are locked up in a gun safe. My father passed away in February, and we divided his collection. He had everything from a little chrome .32, to an antique Colt .45 that was his great uncle's when he was the sheriff of Lubbock Texas, to foreign assault rifles, black powder, cap and ball, shotguns ... you name it. We haven't even had time to sort through it all yet.

[jennielynn1970]

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Jenn,

The Bowling for Columbine movie was horse shiat. The customer was given a certificate for a gun, not actually handed one on the property.

If you walked down the street in your neighborhood you probably live closer to an aresenal than you think. I have some guns in my house and access to more that belonged to my dad. I don't think about them and don't pull them out for any purpose except to shoot them and it's been years since that happened.



There are ways around any gun laws and it's all a matter of who owns them.

Gotta disagree with the movie being "shiat". I thought it was very well done. I've actually liked most of his movies. I know, I know... you either love Michael Moore, or you hate him. I happen to love him.

I know there are a lot more guns in my neighborhood than I'd like to even think about. I belong to the neighborhood association, and I get the emails about the "problem" houses and such in the area. Way too many for my peace of mind. Mostly they are transient families who won't be there next year, but then again, who will move in after them. It's those types of landlords that just rent to anyone to get their rent money. They don't give a crap.


It's gotta come down to laws and who is allowed to own a gun, types of gun depending on where you live and what you'd actually need it for, and how many.

I think there needs to be stricter controls on it all. I also think that we need to stop pandering to the criminals and actually lock them up. Stop serving them gourmet cuisine, and funding their college degrees. That pisses me off like crazy. They're criminals and should be treated as such, not like they're Paris Hilton in jail. When did the people running the jails forget that these are people who committed some pretty hideous crimes.

I'm all for "rehabilitation", but not to this extent.

[RICHARD]

Gotta disagree with the movie being "shiat". I thought it was very well done. I've actually liked most of his movies. I know, I know... you either love Michael Moore, or you hate him. I happen to love him.

I know there are a lot more guns in my neighborhood than I'd like to even think about.

Gothca.

This is no BS- Here in the San Fernando Valley On New Year's Eve people would GO NUTS shooting off guns. We used to have a patio with that corrugated plastic stuff for a roof and you could hear the buckshot from the shot guns hitting the roof.

Police on patrol would all go to the underpasses of the freeways to hide out and to keep from getting the residual "lead rain" from dropping on their head.

In the last 6 years the shooting has disapperered to literally zilch! Now there are laws, a great PSA campaign and more people are calling into the 911 system to report AHs shooting into the air!

Laws really do work. There were literally hundreds of people shooting and this is about 8 blocks from the police station.

I am not going to say that it sounded like a war zone-I hate that stupid expression that and the fact I have never been in a war- But there were people with some REALLY HEAVY DUTY artillery in the area!

[sparks19]

I think there needs to be stricter controls on it all. I also think that we need to stop pandering to the criminals and actually lock them up. Stop serving them gourmet cuisine, and funding their college degrees. That pisses me off like crazy. They're criminals and should be treated as such, not like they're Paris Hilton in jail. When did the people running the jails forget that these are people who committed some pretty hideous crimes.

I'm all for "rehabilitation", but not to this extent.

Now THIS I can MORE than agree with.

I think we should go back to prison farms. Work their criminal arses to the bone... you wronged society... you better make it up to us by working to provide us a service while you rot in prison... NO TV... bland food.... no "play" time.... You sit in your cell and rot when you aren't working to pay off your debt.

[blue]

Besides its allways good to be prepared.